Checkride Failures
01-30-2014, 07:04 PM
#21
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To answer the OP:
I have no idea where their line in the sand is as far as total busts they'll accept. What I do know is that they WILL learn about every single one of them (either from you on the application/interview, or in the subsequent background check). So, all you can really do is disclose them and turn it into a positive experience when questioned about them.
Once you put these busts in your distant past and establish a solid track record from this point forward, I don't think the airlines will hold it against you in the long run. After all, any of us can fail a checkride on any given day. Try not to make a pattern of it though.
I have no idea where their line in the sand is as far as total busts they'll accept. What I do know is that they WILL learn about every single one of them (either from you on the application/interview, or in the subsequent background check). So, all you can really do is disclose them and turn it into a positive experience when questioned about them.
Once you put these busts in your distant past and establish a solid track record from this point forward, I don't think the airlines will hold it against you in the long run. After all, any of us can fail a checkride on any given day. Try not to make a pattern of it though.
01-30-2014, 07:21 PM
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...to clarify my last post, I guess PRIA records only go back 5 years, but at my last interview, they did go through my original logbooks from the late '90s looking for any evidence of checkride busts I may have "forgot" to mention.
01-30-2014, 07:36 PM
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To answer the OP:
I have no idea where their line in the sand is as far as total busts they'll accept. What I do know is that they WILL learn about every single one of them (either from you on the application/interview, or in the subsequent background check). So, all you can really do is disclose them and turn it into a positive experience when questioned about them.
Once you put these busts in your distant past and establish a solid track record from this point forward, I don't think the airlines will hold it against you in the long run. After all, any of us can fail a checkride on any given day. Try not to make a pattern of it though.
I have no idea where their line in the sand is as far as total busts they'll accept. What I do know is that they WILL learn about every single one of them (either from you on the application/interview, or in the subsequent background check). So, all you can really do is disclose them and turn it into a positive experience when questioned about them.
Once you put these busts in your distant past and establish a solid track record from this point forward, I don't think the airlines will hold it against you in the long run. After all, any of us can fail a checkride on any given day. Try not to make a pattern of it though.
02-10-2014, 05:36 AM
#25
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Airlines are first looking for a good employee (honest). Tell the truth!
Are three failures to many? Not necessarily but you will need to build a solid track record with who ever hires you. Never be late. Don't get a DUI. Don't get fired. don't change jobs every 3 months. These are the things that along with 3 failures that will get you passed over at application.
When you do get an interview. Take 100% responsibility. Tell them what you learned from it and why it will never happen again.
Are three failures to many? Not necessarily but you will need to build a solid track record with who ever hires you. Never be late. Don't get a DUI. Don't get fired. don't change jobs every 3 months. These are the things that along with 3 failures that will get you passed over at application.
When you do get an interview. Take 100% responsibility. Tell them what you learned from it and why it will never happen again.
02-11-2014, 10:51 AM
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I have 3 busts (CFI, MEI, Multi-Commercial) and I'm at my second regional. I haven't failed initial, transition, recurrent, ATP ride, and my initial ride here at my second regional. It's doable, keep a positive attitude, be honest, and explained what you learned. Not sure about the majors, but I really don't want to go to them anyways.
02-11-2014, 11:28 AM
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More window dressing...."OMG you busted a checkride." In the 80-90's I never heard a peep about this being a concern. They better pull all the test scores, not final semester grades, for all the heroes from ERAU/UND who want an RJ seat with 500 hrs less than others. "You failed an English exam your freshman year. NO RJ FOR YOU!"
Just tired of this same ol' bs.
Just tired of this same ol' bs.
06-06-2015, 12:08 PM
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My guess is for the next 5+ yrs, the majors can be very selective in whom they call to interview.
I know 3 total check-ride failures is a new restriction with Colgan Air. Aside from check-ride failures, how do the majors view Pt. 121 line-check & annual PC failures? Failing a check-ride (transition not upgrade) is not good of course, but how are having one each of these failures 'currently' weighed in eligibility. Zero chance ever getting on, or perhaps years away with pilot supply contracting?
Anyone get hired with the big three [or Alaska/Southwest] with 121 failures?
I know 3 total check-ride failures is a new restriction with Colgan Air. Aside from check-ride failures, how do the majors view Pt. 121 line-check & annual PC failures? Failing a check-ride (transition not upgrade) is not good of course, but how are having one each of these failures 'currently' weighed in eligibility. Zero chance ever getting on, or perhaps years away with pilot supply contracting?
Anyone get hired with the big three [or Alaska/Southwest] with 121 failures?
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