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Old 08-07-2013, 06:30 AM
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I know cross country is very favorable in terms of getting the airlines to hire you, but I was wondering if having a lot of Upset Recovery, Spin/Stall, and Aerobatics Training can be very favorable as well?

The reason I ask is, locally, there are a few instructors that train for those and the cost per hour is identical to my normal flight training I'm taking now.

Without a doubt it is a lot of fun and I plan to continue with the training because I believe it is helping me to become a better pilot in recognizing and being a little more comfortable when things don't seem to be going right.

Would it look really good/favorable if you are an instructor for Upset Recovery, Spin/Stall, and Aerobatics as well?

Thank you all for any advice and recommendations.
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Man, you would hope so. Unfortunately most resumes have to get through HR first and that is usually much more of a checking-the-box type deal as far as minimums, but you would hope that upset training and aerobatics are considered. Too many accidents recently where people just don't understand angle of attack IMO.
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Man, you would hope so. Unfortunately most resumes have to get through HR first and that is usually much more of a checking-the-box type deal as far as minimums, but you would hope that upset training and aerobatics are considered. Too many accidents recently where people just don't understand angle of attack IMO.
That is exactly why I plan to continue. I'm a novice and just doing some upset recovery for a couple of hours I feel has really improved my flying as well as my confidence. It is also fun and quite enjoyable.

I will continue to do it for my own personal benefit and safety. Getting the job is one thing, but surviving it is another.

If I ever end up able to instruct for such types of training I would glorify it in a cover letter I suppose.

Thanks for the input.

James, you have experience, or are currently, crop dusting, correct?
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:57 AM
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Upset recovery training is good no matter the reasoning. I don't know where you are located but highly recommend http://acrodynamics.org/.
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Upset recovery training is good no matter the reasoning. I don't know where you are located but highly recommend ACRO DYNAMICS.
That place looks awesome. I used WWW.DCAerobatics.com for my first couple hours in aerobatics!
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If U are around NE region! My suggestion to try Yak-52 to get one of the Best Aerobatic experience ! I did total of 5 Hrs on that thing!:-) loops, spins, inverted spins, flat spin, etc. (with CFI of course:-)) at LDJ.
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This outfit has a pretty good reputation for that type of training:

Training Squadron Six (VT-6) Shooters

Heard they have pretty good rates.
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This outfit has a pretty good reputation for that type of training:

Training Squadron Six (VT-6) Shooters

Heard they have pretty good rates.
I heard the 'Boomers' of VT-27 had better business practices!
It REALLY gets good though if you buy their premium package and attend the advanced maneuvering course.
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I heard the 'Boomers' of VT-27 had better business practices!
It REALLY gets good though if you buy their premium package and attend the advanced maneuvering course.
The Nueces Aces do have some good follow on multi engine training right down the street. You can get get your Commercial SEL and MEL at the same airport. Lodging is included in the price of training, and has a good gym, a swimming pool, and bar all within walking distance.

There is a training contract though. 8 years or $1.2 million non-prorated bond. I've seen guys weasel out of both, but they are having a hard time finding an airline gig.

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Originally Posted by mspano85
I know cross country is very favorable in terms of getting the airlines to hire you, but I was wondering if having a lot of Upset Recovery, Spin/Stall, and Aerobatics Training can be very favorable as well?

The reason I ask is, locally, there are a few instructors that train for those and the cost per hour is identical to my normal flight training I'm taking now.

Without a doubt it is a lot of fun and I plan to continue with the training because I believe it is helping me to become a better pilot in recognizing and being a little more comfortable when things don't seem to be going right.

Would it look really good/favorable if you are an instructor for Upset Recovery, Spin/Stall, and Aerobatics as well?

Thank you all for any advice and recommendations.
I'm an aerobatic instructor on the side in the D/FW area, and would be very happy to talk with you about the wealth of benefits this provides. PM me, and if by chance you are in this area maybe we can even do some flying together.
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