Safety pilot and Airline Apps
11-21-2010, 01:47 PM
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Safety pilot and Airline Apps
I am filling out airline apps and they are really picky about how they want time entered for each aircraft I have flown.
They stress that PIC time they want only as PIC time - not when it was student or instructor time. So I have gone through and re added my times up to include ONLY the time I was PIC (not my time as a student or instructor).
However, going through my l saw some times when I was either a safety pilot (for another pilot who was under the hood) and when I had a safety pilot (time when I was under the hood). Each instance is clearly marked as "Safety Pilot: NAME" or "Safety pilot for:"
Am I "reading into" the application and thinking I should exclude that? They only mention instructing/student time so I am tempted to think I SHOULD include safety pilot time. I used a safety pilot when I was working to build my 40 hours of instrument time for my instrument rating, and I acted as safety pilot for a buddy getting his instrument rating while I was trying to build time for my commercial (250). I have since not acted as safety pilot or had another instructor log safety pilot time.
I am applying to eagle and I know they are quick to send people a'packing so I don't want them to accuse me of trying to lie on my application.
Also my multi-engine add on for my commercial - should that be considered PIC time? I am trying to remember if checkrides for an aircraft a pilot is not CURRENTLY rated for (I was going for the checkride for it) still counts.
Thanks.
They stress that PIC time they want only as PIC time - not when it was student or instructor time. So I have gone through and re added my times up to include ONLY the time I was PIC (not my time as a student or instructor).
However, going through my l saw some times when I was either a safety pilot (for another pilot who was under the hood) and when I had a safety pilot (time when I was under the hood). Each instance is clearly marked as "Safety Pilot: NAME" or "Safety pilot for:"
Am I "reading into" the application and thinking I should exclude that? They only mention instructing/student time so I am tempted to think I SHOULD include safety pilot time. I used a safety pilot when I was working to build my 40 hours of instrument time for my instrument rating, and I acted as safety pilot for a buddy getting his instrument rating while I was trying to build time for my commercial (250). I have since not acted as safety pilot or had another instructor log safety pilot time.
I am applying to eagle and I know they are quick to send people a'packing so I don't want them to accuse me of trying to lie on my application.
Also my multi-engine add on for my commercial - should that be considered PIC time? I am trying to remember if checkrides for an aircraft a pilot is not CURRENTLY rated for (I was going for the checkride for it) still counts.
Thanks.
11-21-2010, 02:10 PM
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11-21-2010, 08:26 PM
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Technically the applicant, not the DPE, is usually the PIC for checkrides.
But I'm not certain I would count that towards PIC for an airline app. I would take the more conservative approach when in doubt. I think you could win the argument with enough time and resources, but for the amount of time in question it's probably better to just not have the argument.
But I'm not certain I would count that towards PIC for an airline app. I would take the more conservative approach when in doubt. I think you could win the argument with enough time and resources, but for the amount of time in question it's probably better to just not have the argument.
