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Old 05-10-2010, 08:47 AM
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I am assuming we are talking AMR, I only had to turn in my University PRIA, this applied to my training post-hire as a CFI.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Natca
I am assuming we are talking AMR, I only had to turn in my University PRIA, this applied to my training post-hire as a CFI.
Yeah, exactly. I'll definitely fill one out for the University. I also did a little "on the side" instruction out of a couple different FBO's (sounds like you did the same?) and trying to figure out what I have to do about those, if anything.
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Were you EMPLOYED by the other flight schools? Or were you an INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR? If you did "on the side" instruction in your free time for a few other schools, AND you SET THE PARTICULAR HOURS you were most likely a contractor, so PRIA didn't apply.

The big question is who paid you? The SCHOOL or the STUDENT, and if it was the school, did you get a W-2 at the end of the year for tax purposes.

If you were employed, you need to fill out PRIA requests. If you were a contractor, I wouldn't worry about them. At the end of the day, it's really not a big issue... another way to think about it: Did you list any of the other FBO's as employers in your 10 year background check? If so, I'd send PRIA requests.
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
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Were you EMPLOYED by the other flight schools?
If you were employed, you need to fill out PRIA requests. If you were a contractor, I wouldn't worry about them. At the end of the day, it's really not a big issue... another way to think about it: Did you list any of the other FBO's as employers in your 10 year background check? If so, I'd send PRIA requests.
Yes, I was employed by the flight school.

List them in 10 year background check? I don't see anything about a 10 year background check in the pre-interview stuff I got from Eagle...



Originally Posted by Natca
I am assuming we are talking AMR, I only had to turn in my University PRIA, this applied to my training post-hire as a CFI.
Did you also do any instruction out of FBO's? Did they have an issue with you not including a PRIA for them?
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Old 05-11-2010, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by onetogo
Yes, I was employed by the flight school.

List them in 10 year background check? I don't see anything about a 10 year background check in the pre-interview stuff I got from Eagle...





Did you also do any instruction out of FBO's? Did they have an issue with you not including a PRIA for them?
You will certainly have a 5 year check for TSA, most airlines do a ten year for their own purposes...I cannot imagine AMR not going back ten years. They are tad anal about stuff like that.
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
onetogo,

Were you EMPLOYED by the other flight schools? Or were you an INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR? If you did "on the side" instruction in your free time for a few other schools, AND you SET THE PARTICULAR HOURS you were most likely a contractor, so PRIA didn't apply.

The big question is who paid you? The SCHOOL or the STUDENT, and if it was the school, did you get a W-2 at the end of the year for tax purposes.

If you were employed, you need to fill out PRIA requests. If you were a contractor, I wouldn't worry about them. At the end of the day, it's really not a big issue... another way to think about it: Did you list any of the other FBO's as employers in your 10 year background check? If so, I'd send PRIA requests.
I have done both freelance and worked for 2 other schools.... they did not asked me for that info, but it never hurts to fill the form out... lets see, as far as AMR they do require and DO contact every employer for the last 10 years and if you were a contractor, that must be verified aswell.
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Please read the regs. Only former 121/135 pilots need to report PRIA information. You had to have been hired by a 121/135 operator (this usually happens after the checkride) if you are let go during a training sim session and were never actually hired, you did not fly for the company (there are no records for them to consult regarding your PRIA that pertain to the FAA). Again, all you part 91ers do not need to fill out PRIA. PRIA's are for big boys that had big boy jobs.
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Originally Posted by Arcticflyer
Please read the regs. Only former 121/135 pilots need to report PRIA information. You had to have been hired by a 121/135 operator (this usually happens after the checkride) if you are let go during a training sim session and were never actually hired, you did not fly for the company (there are no records for them to consult regarding your PRIA that pertain to the FAA). Again, all you part 91ers do not need to fill out PRIA. PRIA's are for big boys that had big boy jobs.
Arcticflyer,

You're correct... PRIA only applies to , however many regional carriers request PRIA for the whole slew, hence the discussion above about flight schools and part 91 employers. Bear in mind also that PRIA also requires that you submit forms for nonpilot jobs that fell under DOT drug testing rules (Flight Attendant, Mechanic, DOT Regulated Truck Driver). If in doubt, the easier thing to do is ask the recruiter what they want. (Many companies go with the better safe than sorry route). If a former part 91 employer receives a PRIA request, they are required to send a response back, even if it is only "we don't keep any records that meet PRIA requirements."

Also, I wouldn't assume that just because you didn't take a checkride that you aren't considered "hired" by a previous employer either. One reason why PRIA was established was to catch folks who can't complete initial training at multiple airlines.

From FAA Advisory Circular 120-68D:
(1) Hired and Employed. For all practical purposes under PRIA, the terms “hired” and “employed” both refer to that point in time when a pilot has been offered, and has accepted, a position as a pilot with an operator. Under the drug and alcohol testing regulations, “hire” is defined as “retaining an individual for a safety-sensitive function as a paid employee, as a volunteer, or through barter or other form of compensation” (see part 121, appendix I, and appendix J).
Just because you didn't get a paycheck doesn't mean that it doesn't fall under PRIA requirements.
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Sounds like Eagle is fine with me just including the major university I instructed at (just like natca) and do not need the other CFI gigs I've had (all part 61).
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As for the 10-year history, look on the "AE Pilot Travel and Interview Info Sheet" (the .doc they sent). The second bulleted list has "Complete (typed) chronological 10-year history..." All the other paperwork (PRIA, etc.) says a 5-year history--this one's a little hidden.
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