MrIceCreamMan

What maximum distance would you feel comfortable driving to your base at a Major if you "live in base?"

I'm transitioning from the military, where they tell you where to live and you work a 9-5 when you're not flying, so trying to decide on a commute (drive) distance is challenging.

I'm currently looking at a location and school with a ~2.5-hour commute to my base of choice. That seems like a lot for a first-year FO at a Major, but I hope that it will get better/easier with seniority.


So, how long is your commute (feel free to drop in your circumstances to help paint a better picture)?

1 hour?

2 hours?

3 hours?

More?

Excargodog

Depends totally on the contract at that major. Some have long call on reserve that gives you up to 12-18 hours to show up for a flight. Some want you at the briefing 2 and 1/2 hours after they call you. What does the contract read for whatever major you are looking for and how sure are you that you will actually be awarded your base of choice in a reasonable timeframe? And if/when you upgrade, will you still hold it as a Captain?

Supercubbin

ability to sit short call at home would probably be my limit. With that said, I’d happily do a 3 or 4 hour drive over what I’m doing now.

Pilot4000

I would say the ability to sit short call from home is the deciding factor.

I drove 4.5-5.5 hours each way for a while last summer because of how many issues there was getting seats. I've started just buying tickets now because it ends up being cheaper and it's less stressful.

kme9418

My preference (living in base) is 1 hour max from the airport. If you have an early RAP or early pushback (5, 6, 7, 8 AM), to start a 12-14 hour day, I wouldn't want to get up at 2AM and start driving. If you have to go in the night before, that starts to feel like living out of base. Same thing on the other end...land around midnight, driving more than an hour starts to become risky I think. Also, I've had back to back trips with not much more than 12 hours between. I think it becomes a fatigue issue.

MrIceCreamMan

For me, it's UAL at Newark. I understand a new contract is coming in August, but I am unfamiliar with it. I've heard there will be a better commuter policy, but does that affect those living in base? I've heard Newark is a junior base, so I could reasonably expect(?) to hold it soon if I am not awarded out of training. My long-term goal is widebody, but that's not likely to affect anything in the short term.

MrIceCreamMan

Valid points that I did not consider.

rickair7777

Taking the long-term view, not addressing reserve call out...

Seniority and types of available trips matter. As was mentioned, some folks (me) don't like to get up at 0130 to drive 2-3 hours for an early show. Others prefer not to drive home in the wee hours after a late finish. Driving home after a red-eye is frankly just dangerous for many people, especially if it's a long monotonous drive.

Another factor with trip timing is avoiding rush-hour (if applicable). I like trips that start mid-day and finish later for that reason. I'm a night-owl, the early-bird version of that is very early shows with mid-day release.

And how long are the trips? If you're flying locals you obviously don't want to drive 2-3 hours each way, every day. Longer trips are better if the drive is longer (or can you bid trip back-to-back to minimize commute?)



Also the nature of the commute matters, a grueling slog in the dystopian war zone of major metro-area rush hour traffic is quite a bit more fatiguing than cruise control on a rural highway with some light jazz playing.

I've done everything up to 5 hours (briefly). 1 - 1.5 hours feels like a local commute, easy-peasy. I'm going to say 2.5 is the max before it gets to be a real burden. Maybe 3 hours on nice roads if you can bid report and release times that keep you out of WOCL.

If you live within 30 minutes of the airport, it's whole different job, but even a 1-2 drive is better than a commute by air.

MrIceCreamMan

Thanks for the information!

The 2.5 hours I mentioned is the worst-case scenario with traffic (looked up during rush-hour). According to Google, it's only 1 hour 20 minutes with no traffic.

CX500T

Nyc Delta 757/767 here.

I live in north jersey, roughly 14 dme to lendy where 80 and 287 cross (Boonton is closest large town)

55 miles to JFK if I take the George Washington Bridge, 65 if Gothals/Verazzano

1+15 in non rush hour traffic normally. Usually leave 2 hours to report.

I sit short call in bed because I just need to be "promptly available" for the closest of the 3 airports. 40 minutes to EWR normally.

The only ball buster drives are post red eye, more because of rush hour making it a 2 hour drive.

its not bad.