NopeNoVNAV

(repost in correct thread)

I have two scenarios that I might have but one in particular that I'm trying to figure out what rule I broke for this question


In a nutshell


I was flying A to B, with alternate of C. NASTY weather heavy rain, windshear.

Assigned holding for 40 minutes, weather at B was improving while weather was moving to Alternate C. As it was not forecasted. Considered Other alternates that were farther away but were not ideal for fuel or pax services.
When we hit bingo fuel we decided that we would continue holding as weather shut down alternate C.
Declared min fuel, We burned through the alternate and into reserve a hare and landed. (I filed an ASAP just to cover my butt)

I'm being given yes I broke a rule for not diverting and no I did not break a rule because its for planning purposes.

Other than this I do not recall ever being forced/intentionally to break a rule.

Story 2

Was flying VMC day to a field that was landing west and were expecting a visual approach, there's an approach associated with that runway but it's offset by 30*. This airport is notorious for unstable approaches to this runway.
Noticed that we had a charted visual in our database, and had the chart for it in our IPAD, but the opsepcs didn't have us approved for it yet. So, we felt that in the name of being safe, flying a stable approach with coded lateral guidance, we chose to fly this charted visual despite it not being "approved".


Obviously, I would not continue to do something like this, but if I have available resources that will help me despite not receiving approval for it, why wouldn't I use it.

JamesNoBrakes

I was accused of doing burnouts in the 535 "crew car" one time. I don't recall any loss of traction or hearing tires squeal during the u-turn, but the car is pretty well insulated too.

Spectre186

honestly, neither story sounds good. Think of something outside aviation would be my rec. just my 1c

usmc-sgt

Agreed. 100% neither.

Make something go about delaying a flight for 3 minutes while you ran back to TSA to retrieve a lost Bear for a crying child. Your SOP strictly prohibits delaying a flight for this reason, but you knew it would mean the world to the little child and were willing to accept the consequences.

followingdreams

I agree, cue in the word "Rule", different than "Regulation"... They are HOPING you dont say that you knowingly busted a reg (there is no excuse for that), but busting a company rule is a different story. Every company has SOME stupid rules.

JohnBurke

Every question, from your perspective, should be an opportunity to showcase that you are the employee that should be hired. It is not a confessional. You're being asked to paint yourself in a good light, and you're being tested as to whether you're smart enough to do it. From the employer's perspective the employer is not digging for dirt, but looking for interaction and ease, and your ability to communicate. They're exploring you, not necessarily what you've done wrong. Consequently, it's not a good time to explore your darker side. This is about "humble bragging," with a bit of self-deprication.

"Sir, I would never knowingly break a regulation or a company rule, but I must admit that I have broken my own rules once or twice. I make it a policy not to associate with rif-raf, but just this last Thursday I was confronted with not one, but two temporarily unhoused individuals who had not two cents to rub togther, and were desperately in need of a drink. Against my own rules, we got blind drunk together and when we parted company, they were happy as larks. Unfortunately, one of the two wandered in front of a city bus and was smashed like a ripe grapefruit. I like to think that breaking my rule made his last hours, his happiest."

Now, the employer might say that's a terrible outcome, but this is your opportunity to make lemonade out of instant mix, and explain, "I realize that it appears a tragedy, but I focus on the sunny side, because now that man's buddy doesn't have to share."

This way, you'll be humanitarian, and philosopher. Two birds, from just once, being stoned.

TiredSoul

Both stories are way to complicated and fraught with pitfalls, these are HR questions and you’re not dealing with experienced pilots that can understand context.
Don’t dig yourself a hole.
You started the APU early…that all there is too it.

OscarRomeo

Ever had the jetway hooked back up to get a few pax on the late night (last) flight to an outstation or had the rampers open the cargo back up for some last minute bags? Usually against SOP but doing so helped the customers. Turn a negative into a positive. And hire an interview coach…

NopeNoVNAV

Hired an interview coach and the one they're pushing me to keep is the not diverting one.


I've added a few bags after blocking out while sitting on the ramp after being pushed back with engines off. But I can't find a rule that is broken based on our ops. Everything is electronic and updated

TiredSoul

Considering your earlier questions…you’re not a very fluent conversationalist.
Don’t try and memorize a convoluted story with a lot of ‘then I was here and this happened and then I went there’ as you’ll loose your audience.

This is where the Goldfish Rule comes in.
Don’t use anything that takes longer to explain then a goldfish takes to circle the bowl.
You’re way overthinking this.
Consider the question ‘have you ever stolen from an employer’. Everyone has taken a pen, a notepad, a stapler or a bag of coffee.
Rules are not made on the battlefield, rules are made in an office and just sometimes you can’t make an omelet without breaking an egg.
Start the APU more than 30 min early, find something.
You need to understand the purpose of the question that your interviewer has already asked 7 times that day.
If you expect the question make up a story.