Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Career Builder > Career Questions
Once-in-a-lifetime Opportunity >

Once-in-a-lifetime Opportunity

Search

Notices
Career Questions Career advice, interview prep and gouges, job fairs, etc.

Once-in-a-lifetime Opportunity

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-25-2019, 06:48 AM
  #11  
Perennial Reserve
 
Excargodog's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,115
Default

The Navy has an old saying, that ‘any ship can be a minesweeper...once.’

‘Once in a lifetime’ mistakes in aviation are generally the very worst kind.
Excargodog is offline  
Old 10-27-2019, 12:13 PM
  #12  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 36
Default

Originally Posted by CaptDad17
We’re about to negotiate the employment proposal and I want to know where the ballpark is. My pilot duties will be totally separate from my IT duties, so it’ll be like working 2 jobs. I’ve never been a pilot and they’ve never hired one, so neither of us know what it should look like. I just want to make sure I’m not getting low-balled, even if he is paying for my training. It’ll start with single engine piston, then SIC in the Citation, then eventually PIC. Curious about salary progression.

In addition to what everyone else has said, they now want you to do two yes two jobs. The kicker is they aren't going to pay you for each job. It'll be lumped into one low paying job to save the company money.

Go back to doing your IT services and let someone else do the flying. There's pry a reason they are doing it this way and I'm guessing the local pilots know to stay away from this company.
imthecaptainnow is offline  
Old 01-02-2020, 10:39 AM
  #13  
Airborne bus driver
 
RadialGal's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: my seat smells funny
Posts: 222
Default

Said the Pilots when minimums fell,
"Sir I think we should wait for a spell."
Said the Boss, "I'm too tired,
You'll fly or you're fired."
His estate paid their Widows quite well.

RadialGal
RadialGal is offline  
Old 01-02-2020, 11:15 AM
  #14  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Position: Survey Pilot
Posts: 15
Default

Serious question from someone with low time (about 500 hours), why is this such a bad idea? The guy would get his ratings and then fly a 206 (I did that with 250 hours at my first job) and then he would move on to SIC in a jet and then become captain. Safety wise how is that different then someone paying for their own ratings getting hired to fly a 206 and then applying to be an FO on a jet before upgrading to captain? I'm not questioning any of the knowledge and experience of those who have said this is a bad idea, I'm seriously wondering why though?
flyingfalcon is offline  
Old 01-02-2020, 12:55 PM
  #15  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 419
Default

Because he can't make enough mistakes on his own to fill his experience bag before his luck bag empties.

He'll save money on the coffin, though. Because he'll fit in a mason jar when the dust settles.

Plane Coffee
galleycafe is offline  
Old 01-02-2020, 02:31 PM
  #16  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,044
Default

Originally Posted by flyingfalcon
Serious question from someone with low time (about 500 hours), why is this such a bad idea? The guy would get his ratings and then fly a 206 (I did that with 250 hours at my first job) and then he would move on to SIC in a jet and then become captain. Safety wise how is that different then someone paying for their own ratings getting hired to fly a 206 and then applying to be an FO on a jet before upgrading to captain? I'm not questioning any of the knowledge and experience of those who have said this is a bad idea, I'm seriously wondering why though?
The regional airline system is a smoothly oiled machine, and there are many safety limitations and supervision that doesn't exist in 91. You'd have 2500 TT and 1000 121 turbine before upgrading.

The OP's stated that neither he nor the employer have any idea what they're doing. That's a lethal combination with a turbojet.

I'm nearly certain their insurance company would put the brakes on this. But if they're self-insured, they may not understand the risks (which are very high).
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 01-02-2020, 04:32 PM
  #17  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Position: Survey Pilot
Posts: 15
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777
The regional airline system is a smoothly oiled machine, and there are many safety limitations and supervision that doesn't exist in 91. You'd have 2500 TT and 1000 121 turbine before upgrading.

The OP's stated that neither he nor the employer have any idea what they're doing. That's a lethal combination with a turbojet.

I'm nearly certain their insurance company would put the brakes on this. But if they're self-insured, they may not understand the risks (which are very high).
That makes sense, I wasn't thinking about the employer side of it but its probably a lotttt more involved that anything I've done so far.
flyingfalcon is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Moe96
Flight Schools and Training
2
09-23-2017 11:32 AM
L3 C3ISR
Part 91 and Low Time
15
06-09-2017 06:44 AM
Pathfinder1
Corporate
1
11-26-2015 07:44 AM
SkyHigh
Flight Schools and Training
6
11-17-2005 02:01 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices