Foreign pilots
#42
In a land of unicorns
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Here's the 411: If you don't have a current right to live and work in the US, you will not get a pilot job here. Apart from VERY few exceptions at a few regionals.
And if you think you'll get a work visa by "having a work offer", you're wrong.
#43
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The sponsored visa numbers are available online.
JetBlue sponsored 0 pilots in 2018. These happened in 2018: Nothing prior that either.
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I can't find ANY pilot jobs sponsored by any airline apart from Air Wisconsin and SkyWest (regionals).
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I can't find ANY pilot jobs sponsored by any airline apart from Air Wisconsin and SkyWest (regionals).
#44
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
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My fiancée is a U.S citizen but it doesn’t really matter coz citizenship is not something I’m pursuing. I’m sure about the visa because I have already applied for it and the embassy informed me that the visa will be issued once I get an offer letter from any U.S based company it’s part of the process + I have a 10 year entry visa but it doesn’t give me the right to work. I have a social security, a property, and a Security clearance.
#45
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Joined APC: May 2018
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Hey, US immigrant here (and now US Citizen). First of all, SSN and TSA clearance have nothing to do with having a right to work in the US. Plus visas are not issued based on offer letters, an employer would need to sponsor you, in itself a quite expensive and time consuming task. Coming to work in the US just won't work out for you if you insist on following this path. If your girl is a citizen then that is a guaranteed path to your green card. When I got mine it took around 6 months.
What if you are a citizen and wanted to explore getting to 1,500 hours overseas as an FO and then coming back to the US? I would be willing to pay for the type rating on my own if need be. There have been a few threads of people that have flown in the middle east or asia and have come back to fly for the majors, I do not know what their experience was before working overseas.
What FAR's cover this?
#46
I am currently in flight school.
What if you are a citizen and wanted to explore getting to 1,500 hours overseas as an FO and then coming back to the US? I would be willing to pay for the type rating on my own if need be. There have been a few threads of people that have flown in the middle east or asia and have come back to fly for the majors, I do not know what their experience was before working overseas.
What FAR's cover this?
What if you are a citizen and wanted to explore getting to 1,500 hours overseas as an FO and then coming back to the US? I would be willing to pay for the type rating on my own if need be. There have been a few threads of people that have flown in the middle east or asia and have come back to fly for the majors, I do not know what their experience was before working overseas.
What FAR's cover this?
They had all been overseas about ten years, had narrowbody or WB experience, and plenty of jet time.
You don't need to buy an FAA type, US airlines will all provide that training.
If you're looking at getting into the regionals, that should be no problem as long as you have a US CPL, 1500 hours, and right to work.
#47
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2022
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EB-2 NIW
Hello guys, as there's a pilot shortage coming up after Corona I'm interested to relocate to the US. As I 'm neither US citizen nor have a green card yet I'm considering to apply for an EB-2 with national interest waiver. Does anyone has any experience?
#48
The EB-2 appears to be targeted towards people with very high academic credentials and work experience such that they can serve as leaders in the advancement of their fields. Or people like world class performing artists.
While many pilots might tend to imagine themselves as being that special, we are really just cogs in the machine (expensive cogs perhaps, made of special metals requiring a lengthy machining process).
If the pilot shortage got bad enough (*sustained* significant airline schedule or economic disruption), they might open up a specific work-visa category for pilots from many or even all foriegn nations. But we're not there yet, the only thing close is the special work visa for Australians which includes pilots in it's scope.
#49
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Just to clarify: there have been rumours about a working permit application via EB2-NIW now being open for professional pilots. Haven't found anything official though, so I am not sure whether US airlines and unions even are aware or have heard about it.
Anyway, despite holding at least the three necessary requirements I'm quite sure regular pilots (me e.g. having been on A320 for ten consecutive years) are not considered to be of national interest. Beyond that, holding a work permit is just one of many steps such as relocating, converting licenses and starting at seniority zero.
Still I do understand and feel the desperation in Europe, especially when comparing air traffic markets and watch companies struggling with Covid regulations and wasting tax money.
Anyway, despite holding at least the three necessary requirements I'm quite sure regular pilots (me e.g. having been on A320 for ten consecutive years) are not considered to be of national interest. Beyond that, holding a work permit is just one of many steps such as relocating, converting licenses and starting at seniority zero.
Still I do understand and feel the desperation in Europe, especially when comparing air traffic markets and watch companies struggling with Covid regulations and wasting tax money.
#50
They would be aware of it. The government does not usually take unilateral actions without coordinating with or informing industry and labor stakeholders.
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