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Old 06-22-2018, 11:19 PM
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As an aspiring pilot, how many nights can I expect to spend at home each month, and which airlines are the best for having the most nights at home?
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:29 AM
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At what point in your career?
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:33 AM
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At what point in your career?
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Live in domicile or plan to commute?
Junior reserve or senior line holder?
It all depends...

Your best (and quickest) QOL will be if you move to the most junior domicile.
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Yet another pilot who doesn’t actually want to be a, eh, err, pilot. Pilots fly airplanes, which cover great distances, being away is part of the deal. You might minimize it, but it’s a fact of piloting airliners. It’s gonna be about 12-15 days a month. Yes, guys live in base, bid reserve and don’t get called, home 28 days a month. Pilots that are senior and fly long international trips may work only 12 days a month (then complain about jet lag, overnight legs). Others commute to reserve and are away 20 days a month. Military pilots deploy for 90-180 days, regularly. I flew 3-18 day trips in the C-5; 1-16 day trips corporate.

Get over it or become a CFI for a career.

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Yet another pilot who doesn’t actually want to be a, eh, err, pilot. Pilots fly airplanes, which cover great distances, being away is part of the deal. You might minimize it, but it’s a fact of piloting airliners. It’s gonna be about 12-15 days a month. Yes, guys live in base, bid reserve and don’t get called, home 28 days a month. Pilots that are senior and fly long international trips may work only 12 days a month (then complain about jet lag, overnight legs). Others commute to reserve and are away 20 days a month. Military pilots deploy for 90-180 days, regularly. I flew 3-18 day trips in the C-5; 1-16 day trips corporate.

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Old 06-23-2018, 09:06 AM
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Nights? That’s different than days. Probably 8-10 nights. A bad month is 15-17.

And becareful of how guys define a night ‘at home.’ Someone said he’d only been away for 1(?) night so far this year. So his method was to fly the 0200-0300 departures. That’s an 0100-0200 sign in. He’s counting that as a night at home?!? Not in my book.
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The reason I asked about the point in the career is because the original question is impossible to answer without specifics. I can tell you that I've had six months at home, and other occasions when I had no time at home. In some cases, I lived with the aircraft and was home every night except when out flying, but spent nearly all my time in the house. In other cases I lived with the airplane, where ever it went, sometimes in the airplane, and didn't come home for ten months.

I'm in a hotel room right now, but just had two and a half months at home. There have been times when I've gone out in the field for two weeks, but been home for two, or gone for six weeks and home for six weeks. It depends on the time in the career, the job, where I was living, the amount of work I chose to do, the assignment, seniority, and a number of other factors.

If you're flying domestically, you'll be home for a few days, away for a few days. How much of that time is spent in transit and how much time is spent on the road largely depends on multiple factors, not the least of which is where you live.

The thing is, as mentioned above, airplanes are mostly designed to go somewhere. Unless you're flying for a drop zone where the airplanes are only used to go up and down, you're nearly always traveling somewhere. You might do ag, where you fly mostly from one or two locations, and fly locally, but the majority of aircraft get used because they go places and they do one or more of three things; they go fast, they bypass ground transit, and they haul things. If you want to fly them, you need to go with them. The job chooses what and where and when. Some find the travel to be a big attraction. Some like the variety, some like the lifestyle. Some find prestige. Some like the money, which is good at some jobs, not at others.

I flew professionally because I couldn't afford to fly on my own. It turned out that I got to fly some really interesting aircraft and do things with them that I'd never have done with my own airplane. In time, I ended up all over the globe. I flew under powerlines. I chased people in the dark in Iraq, flew down canyons in Afghanistan, flew with Navy SEALs, and hauled corporate presidents. I landed in the Grand Canyon, carried cancer patients, taught doctors and future airline pilots to fly, towed banners, tossed jumpers, pulled gliders, sprayed crops, and flew everything from single seat radial engine airplanes to four engine turbojets, corporate jets, turboprops, and old second world war bombers. All from a kid who thought he'd never afford a hang glider.

If living in one spot and working 9-5 is your goal, it's possible with a few, select flying jobs, and there are plenty of jobs in aviation where it's possible. For the most part, airline flying is not among those options. Pick your poison.
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Originally Posted by PerfInit
Live in domicile or plan to commute?
Junior reserve or senior line holder?
It all depends...

Your best (and quickest) QOL will be if you move to the most junior domicile.
Thanks, from reading through I bunch of threads I kinda thought that was the case, but I wasn't sure. Thanks for the info
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
The reason I asked about the point in the career is because the original question is impossible to answer without specifics. I can tell you that I've had six months at home, and other occasions when I had no time at home. In some cases, I lived with the aircraft and was home every night except when out flying, but spent nearly all my time in the house. In other cases I lived with the airplane, where ever it went, sometimes in the airplane, and didn't come home for ten months.

I'm in a hotel room right now, but just had two and a half months at home. There have been times when I've gone out in the field for two weeks, but been home for two, or gone for six weeks and home for six weeks. It depends on the time in the career, the job, where I was living, the amount of work I chose to do, the assignment, seniority, and a number of other factors.

If you're flying domestically, you'll be home for a few days, away for a few days. How much of that time is spent in transit and how much time is spent on the road largely depends on multiple factors, not the least of which is where you live.

The thing is, as mentioned above, airplanes are mostly designed to go somewhere. Unless you're flying for a drop zone where the airplanes are only used to go up and down, you're nearly always traveling somewhere. You might do ag, where you fly mostly from one or two locations, and fly locally, but the majority of aircraft get used because they go places and they do one or more of three things; they go fast, they bypass ground transit, and they haul things. If you want to fly them, you need to go with them. The job chooses what and where and when. Some find the travel to be a big attraction. Some like the variety, some like the lifestyle. Some find prestige. Some like the money, which is good at some jobs, not at others.

I flew professionally because I couldn't afford to fly on my own. It turned out that I got to fly some really interesting aircraft and do things with them that I'd never have done with my own airplane. In time, I ended up all over the globe. I flew under powerlines. I chased people in the dark in Iraq, flew down canyons in Afghanistan, flew with Navy SEALs, and hauled corporate presidents. I landed in the Grand Canyon, carried cancer patients, taught doctors and future airline pilots to fly, towed banners, tossed jumpers, pulled gliders, sprayed crops, and flew everything from single seat radial engine airplanes to four engine turbojets, corporate jets, turboprops, and old second world war bombers. All from a kid who thought he'd never afford a hang glider.

If living in one spot and working 9-5 is your goal, it's possible with a few, select flying jobs, and there are plenty of jobs in aviation where it's possible. For the most part, airline flying is not among those options. Pick your poison.
Thanks for all of the great information and insight. I really appreciate it because for me this was the really the major question I have before I decide to take the next step.
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