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03-29-2018, 02:31 PM

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Brickyard, anyone know this one?

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04-01-2018, 06:50 AM

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What is a carveout?

I gather that it is a scheduling term, something to do when a trip begins or ends? That's about as far as I got on my own.

04-01-2018, 07:51 AM

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That’s for the info. A lot of good info.

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04-01-2018, 11:03 AM

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What is a carveout?

I gather that it is a scheduling term, something to do when a trip begins or ends? That's about as far as I got on my own.

Genetically, it's an exception to rule, or a rule benefiting a specific group.

04-02-2018, 05:12 AM

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Genetically, it's an exception to rule, or a rule benefiting a specific group.

Apologies for being dense, but the lightbulb hasn't come on yet.

Could you give me a for instance?

04-02-2018, 06:22 AM

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Apologies for being dense, but the lightbulb hasn't come on yet.

Could you give me a for instance?

An example would be union-authorized raise/bonus for new-hires. Benefits the company because it helps recruiting, benefits the noobs, and benefits senior lifers (typically union leadership) because it helps keep the company stable long-term. Doesn't directly benefit most of the pilot group, and is in fact counter-productive because it gives away a negotiating item.

Another was the recent SKW pay raise. 1% across the board but very senior people got a big 401k enhancement.

Stuff like that.

04-02-2018, 06:40 AM

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The big one would be the cargo carveout for the 117 flight and duty time limits. The Air Transport Association of America has a carveout for its members reducing the rest required under 121.485(b).