Will glider rating help resume?
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No, I get your point. His glider training helped him in the situation he faced.
But we were also discussing, and the OP asked, how glider flight time would be viewed by those hiring. In the scheme of what they look for it does not appear to even be a blip.
I don’t think those who hired him even knew about his glider training.
But we were also discussing, and the OP asked, how glider flight time would be viewed by those hiring. In the scheme of what they look for it does not appear to even be a blip.
I don’t think those who hired him even knew about his glider training.
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It wasn't the first time he deadsticked a large airplane to a landing, having done so in an F-4.
No, you can go straight to that coveted shiny jet job with nothing more than the bare minimum; a lot do. It's an entry level position that doesn't really require much from you other than show up and fly IFR.
There is no requirement of you other than to check the minimum boxes and fly your line.
There's also nothing to prevent you seeking to better yourself through additional ratings, education, training, experience, etc. Who knows. One day it might even save your life.
No, you can go straight to that coveted shiny jet job with nothing more than the bare minimum; a lot do. It's an entry level position that doesn't really require much from you other than show up and fly IFR.
There is no requirement of you other than to check the minimum boxes and fly your line.
There's also nothing to prevent you seeking to better yourself through additional ratings, education, training, experience, etc. Who knows. One day it might even save your life.
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It wasn't the first time he deadsticked a large airplane to a landing, having done so in an F-4.
No, you can go straight to that coveted shiny jet job with nothing more than the bare minimum; a lot do. It's an entry level position that doesn't really require much from you other than show up and fly IFR.
There is no requirement of you other than to check the minimum boxes and fly your line.
There's also nothing to prevent you seeking to better yourself through additional ratings, education, training, experience, etc. Who knows. One day it might even save your life.
No, you can go straight to that coveted shiny jet job with nothing more than the bare minimum; a lot do. It's an entry level position that doesn't really require much from you other than show up and fly IFR.
There is no requirement of you other than to check the minimum boxes and fly your line.
There's also nothing to prevent you seeking to better yourself through additional ratings, education, training, experience, etc. Who knows. One day it might even save your life.
But again, I don’t think that was the OPs question. I’m living proof that the legacy carriers care little about that. I probably would have been better served knocking out a masters degree than honing my aviation skills.
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I don’t disagree and have done so. I’m kind of an aviation geek. I’ve taught aerobatics, helicopters, fixed wing, NVGs in combat. Need to knock out the CFI-G.
But again, I don’t think that was the OPs question. I’m living proof that the legacy carriers care little about that. I probably would have been better served knocking out a masters degree than honing my aviation skills.
But again, I don’t think that was the OPs question. I’m living proof that the legacy carriers care little about that. I probably would have been better served knocking out a masters degree than honing my aviation skills.
How long have you been trying to get on with a major?
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When you've accomplished the same, check in with your results. Let's see how you do.
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Well you switched from saying having glider experience helped to something else. Let’s focus on aircraft performance.
The NTSB has the facts for professionals interested -
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/...ts/AAR1003.pdf
Regarding gliding experience I’d recommend - page 4 (21/213 pdf), Page 56 (73/213 pdf) third paragraph, pages 88-90 (105-107/213 pdf), pages 96-98 (113-115/213 pdf).
Page 4 depicts the flight path. If you measure the distance from where they crossed the Harlem river the distance they flew was slightly farther than flying to runway 13 at LGA. Considering the NTSB’s finding #21 continuing to the Hudson was the wisest choice.
NTSB finding #21 (page 121, 137/213 pdf) recommends crews get training on dual engine failures at low altitude.
Regarding finding #21 you need an energy spot (call it ‘departure key’) to allow an immediate RTB. Since the airlines haven’t provided the training I’d recommend using clean’ and minimum clean speed after departure as the energy spot that allows an immediate return. That also happens to be the energy spot that US 1549 had, clean, 2818’, and 220 kts. Prior to the ‘departure key’ you don’t have enough energy. After that, with both engines at climb power, you’re out climbing your glide profile until you’re much higher (assuming no level offs)
I’d recommend trying it in the sim a couple of times. From liftoff until clean your options are very limited. Clean and min clean speed opens up the window of a potential immediate RTB. Push over to maintain L/D and start seeing if your performance matches what you’ve experienced in the simulator. If it does you’re golden. If it doesn’t switch to plan B.
The NTSB has the facts for professionals interested -
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/...ts/AAR1003.pdf
Regarding gliding experience I’d recommend - page 4 (21/213 pdf), Page 56 (73/213 pdf) third paragraph, pages 88-90 (105-107/213 pdf), pages 96-98 (113-115/213 pdf).
Page 4 depicts the flight path. If you measure the distance from where they crossed the Harlem river the distance they flew was slightly farther than flying to runway 13 at LGA. Considering the NTSB’s finding #21 continuing to the Hudson was the wisest choice.
NTSB finding #21 (page 121, 137/213 pdf) recommends crews get training on dual engine failures at low altitude.
Regarding finding #21 you need an energy spot (call it ‘departure key’) to allow an immediate RTB. Since the airlines haven’t provided the training I’d recommend using clean’ and minimum clean speed after departure as the energy spot that allows an immediate return. That also happens to be the energy spot that US 1549 had, clean, 2818’, and 220 kts. Prior to the ‘departure key’ you don’t have enough energy. After that, with both engines at climb power, you’re out climbing your glide profile until you’re much higher (assuming no level offs)
I’d recommend trying it in the sim a couple of times. From liftoff until clean your options are very limited. Clean and min clean speed opens up the window of a potential immediate RTB. Push over to maintain L/D and start seeing if your performance matches what you’ve experienced in the simulator. If it does you’re golden. If it doesn’t switch to plan B.
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