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Old 08-20-2020, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
a) did they have those clauses in their contract?

b) did someone enforce it?



Here is an example:



"2. The Company shall require that a Successor or potential successor, as a condition to entering into an agreement that is intended to or will result in a transaction that will establish a Successor, be required to commit in writing to adhere to the provisions of the Agreement."


I’ll have to pull out the Compass CBA and look for it


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Old 08-21-2020, 01:27 AM
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Buying a operating certificate does not make you a successor to that airline. If it did the purchaser would be on the hook for all the outstanding debt. The ALPA motion would have gone no where. The lack of funding is the telling part. People don’t want to invest in airlines at the moment.
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Buying a operating certificate does not make you a successor to that airline. If it did the purchaser would be on the hook for all the outstanding debt. The ALPA motion would have gone no where. The lack of funding is the telling part. People don’t want to invest in airlines at the moment.
That's not true. It depends on the CBA language.
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
That's not true. It depends on the CBA language.


Section 1 part D of the Compass CBA


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Old 08-22-2020, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Av8rPHX
That’s interesting,AFA told Compass FAs that successorship wouldn’t apply since it was an outright purchase of an airline that had ceased operating.


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Each union work group’s successorship clause would be used for each respective work group. Maybe compass AFA contract didn’t have a successorship clause or isn’t sufficient in its wording?
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
Each union work group’s successorship clause would be used for each respective work group. Maybe compass AFA contract didn’t have a successorship clause or isn’t sufficient in its wording?


Probably insufficient in its wording. It was about as thick as a grade level kids book. Didn’t contain much


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Old 08-23-2020, 08:48 AM
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Another example of selective enforcement by ALPA. AirTran had a clause in it’s CBA that basically said if aircraft go to another airline the pilots would go with them. ALPA would not let the AirTran pilots go to Delta when the 717s went to Delta.
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Old 08-23-2020, 09:04 AM
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Another example of selective enforcement by ALPA. AirTran had a clause in it’s CBA that basically said if aircraft go to another airline the pilots would go with them. ALPA would not let the AirTran pilots go to Delta when the 717s went to Delta.
That's a stretch. Those aircraft belonged to Southwest and that's who leased them to Delta.

I take it you're another of the malcontent AirTran pilots that are constantly b*tching about SWA. Why didn't you just quit and go to Delta back then?
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Old 08-23-2020, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tanker
Another example of selective enforcement by ALPA. AirTran had a clause in it’s CBA that basically said if aircraft go to another airline the pilots would go with them. ALPA would not let the AirTran pilots go to Delta when the 717s went to Delta.
Actually the rumor goes that GK was not at all happy that the pilots were supposed to go with the 717s as was negotiated between DLA & SWA so the deal got scrapped for a few months until DLA relented and took just the airplanes.
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Old 08-23-2020, 10:16 AM
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Actually the rumor goes that GK was not at all happy that the pilots were supposed to go with the 717s as was negotiated between DLA & SWA so the deal got scrapped for a few months until DLA relented and took just the airplanes.
Awesome. As if on cue, the Chief of the AirTran Malcontents appears. 🤣🥳
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