[Breeze] Airways
#4951
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Joined APC: Jan 2022
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Lol there's no rose colored glasses, it's just reality. Look at the trends, don't go off of what happend last year or the year before. They now have turned profitable months and are looking to at least break even as they grow later in the year. Some are freaking out because they told us a few days ago they won't be profitable this quarter. But it's not like we expected to anyways, they only said a few months ago they planned on being profitable March that was it.
#4952
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
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Breeze losses 1 quarter
DOT number's
Breeze lost just over $28 million 1st quarter, which means if they made money, like they said they did in March (Spring Break, Easter, March Madness charters), then they lost over $14 million in Jan and Feb. They lost $47 million the 1st quarter last year so that's an improvement, I guess.
Avelo made $749k+ 1st quarter.
Breeze lost just over $28 million 1st quarter, which means if they made money, like they said they did in March (Spring Break, Easter, March Madness charters), then they lost over $14 million in Jan and Feb. They lost $47 million the 1st quarter last year so that's an improvement, I guess.
Avelo made $749k+ 1st quarter.
#4953
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Joined APC: Aug 2023
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they expected to be profitable over a year ago. We will see. But of course don’t expect management to tell you things are bad if they really are bad. We’re just going to keep hearing how great they do for us each Tuesday until they need us to turn the lights off. If that happens. Who knows though. Maybe we are really doing so good and they just want to keep it a secret. Or maybe this is the next Enron scam
I want to see this place through as much as the next guy but..... the facts aren't matching reality. They fully expected to be profitbale Q2. Don't act like it was a "maybe".
Also, Avelo is peanuts. SW isn't acquiring it's way out of this hole. It needs the MAX 7 to stop flying small routes with MAX 8s. It's like Breeze flying all its routes with A320s, when we can only fill 100 seats as it is.
#4954
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Joined APC: Mar 2023
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So now I ask - where is the overcapacity? Airlines are literally parking NEOs and not taking delivery of expected MAXs. The overcapacity IS Breeze.....
I want to see this place through as much as the next guy but..... the facts aren't matching reality. They fully expected to be profitbale Q2. Don't act like it was a "maybe".
I want to see this place through as much as the next guy but..... the facts aren't matching reality. They fully expected to be profitbale Q2. Don't act like it was a "maybe".
How about Spirit and Frontier. They have 240 seat planes that they can’t fill. It’s a lot easier to fill 137 seats, also we can charge for first class seats and have other ancillary revenue. At least they have said that they’re not burning cash like before and are more “stable” now as we add 220s. If we’re able to get more year round contract flying too that would provide relief.
#4955
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How about Spirit and Frontier. They have 240 seat planes that they can’t fill. It’s a lot easier to fill 137 seats, also we can charge for first class seats and have other ancillary revenue. At least they have said that they’re not burning cash like before and are more “stable” now as we add 220s. If we’re able to get more year round contract flying too that would provide relief.
I also found a release from Breeze on its March profit. It was a operating profit. They did not make a net profit which is the number that matters.
#4959
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Joined APC: Aug 2023
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Don't worry about the 30 minute turn times on a 4 leg day.
#4960
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Joined APC: Jan 2022
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Sounds like management is doing everything they can not to fall into the same repuatation bucket as Spirit and Frontier. On time performance is the new key problem. New idea presented by management: Non-Revs will now help service the aircraft after each flight.
Don't worry about the 30 minute turn times on a 4 leg day.
Don't worry about the 30 minute turn times on a 4 leg day.
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