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Old 06-08-2024, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bluespoon
Lol you do know CHS is a Breeze base right? That's where they park the planes, they're not broken.
It’s abnormal for them to be parked during the middle of the day, that’s the core concept. Other airlines usually park planes at night and use them during the day, as opposed to leaving them parked always.
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Old 06-09-2024, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bluespoon
Lol you do know CHS is a Breeze base right? That's where they park the planes, they're not broken.
Originally Posted by Meowsongaurd
Margitaville is right. Last time I went to DFW I saw American planes parked at multiple gates, Same thing in ATL, They had Delta planes parked at all the gates!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
You guys aren't as funny or clever as you think you are. The parked 220s in CHS are in the back over by the Boeing junkyard. Not on the ramp. Not at the gate.

And you breezibois wonder why nobody takes you seriously. Bet you meow on guard too.
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Old 06-09-2024, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jdub2
It’s abnormal for them to be parked during the middle of the day, that’s the core concept. Other airlines usually park planes at night and use them during the day, as opposed to leaving them parked always.
We have a different business model than legacies have. We do not fly everyday of the week, and certain days we fly more than others. It’s market demand, we mimic Allegiant. With 800+ planes, each legacy can afford to run half full planes multiple times a day and it still doesn’t really affect their load factor. We have under 30 planes, so running one or two near empty is not worth it for us. It’s frequency (or lack thereof) of flights here. Regardless, it works and has been working here. Just let corporate do what they do, and we do what we do and everything works out.
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Old 06-09-2024, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage
We have a different business model than legacies have. We do not fly everyday of the week, and certain days we fly more than others. It’s market demand, we mimic Allegiant. With 800+ planes, each legacy can afford to run half full planes multiple times a day and it still doesn’t really affect their load factor. We have under 30 planes, so running one or two near empty is not worth it for us. It’s frequency (or lack thereof) of flights here. Regardless, it works and has been working here. Just let corporate do what they do, and we do what we do and everything works out.
no, it doesn’t work, not sure if you have been keeping up on current events but you are losing money and have been losing money.

yes, corporate is doing what they do. Extract money from the company and cash out at the right time.

yes, you are doing what you do, believe management when they say things are turning around.
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Old 06-09-2024, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage
We have a different business model than legacies have. We do not fly everyday of the week, and certain days we fly more than others. It’s market demand, we mimic Allegiant. With 800+ planes, each legacy can afford to run half full planes multiple times a day and it still doesn’t really affect their load factor. We have under 30 planes, so running one or two near empty is not worth it for us. It’s frequency (or lack thereof) of flights here. Regardless, it works and has been working here. Just let corporate do what they do, and we do what we do and everything works out.
That's your problem. You're trying to outallegiant allegiant. You will never beat them at that game. They invented that game.

It's kind of surprising that Neeleman showed so little creativity this time. All he did was cut and paste the allegiant business model but hired a bunch of Skywest refugees at Skywest pay to keep costs low and flew used worn out E190s. Then they acquired a bunch of brand new 220s thinking brand new factory warantee airplanes would have extremely low operating costs. Well the 220 has turned out to be a train wreck and the pilots and FAs all went union and will demand pay parity with the majors. Breeze is not making money. Breeze has never made money. Breeze can't make money. If they ever get a market foothold allegiant will just move in there and squash them. PVU is a fine example. It's not long before the investors quit throwing good money after bad and force a sale.
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Old 06-09-2024, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
You guys aren't as funny or clever as you think you are. The parked 220s in CHS are in the back over by the Boeing junkyard. Not on the ramp. Not at the gate.

And you breezibois wonder why nobody takes you seriously. Bet you meow on guard too.
There's two type of lost decade pilots out there. There's one who genuinely happy for all the success that the young generation is seeing, and that I would be happy to sling gear and do a walk around in the snow for any day of the week. Then there's the ones like Margaritaville, that had a supbar career and actively hopes for the downfall of anyone that didn't have to "put in their dues" like he did. Let me guess, "back in your day you had to have shuttle landings to get an interview"? Haven't heard that one before.

I take solice that Breeze lives rent free in his head, and every time he see's one of our blue planes taxiing by he turns to his 25 year old captain and say something along the lines of "can you believe those guy's think they're major airline pilots"

Meow go back to your AA forum and complain about something else that no one will listen to.
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Old 06-09-2024, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
That's your problem. You're trying to outallegiant allegiant. You will never beat them at that game. They invented that game.

It's kind of surprising that Neeleman showed so little creativity this time. All he did was cut and paste the allegiant business model but hired a bunch of Skywest refugees at Skywest pay to keep costs low and flew used worn out E190s. Then they acquired a bunch of brand new 220s thinking brand new factory warantee airplanes would have extremely low operating costs. Well the 220 has turned out to be a train wreck and the pilots and FAs all went union and will demand pay parity with the majors. Breeze is not making money. Breeze has never made money. Breeze can't make money. If they ever get a market foothold allegiant will just move in there and squash them. PVU is a fine example. It's not long before the investors quit throwing good money after bad and force a sale.
In fact you have our history completely wrong. Neeleman was asked to be here to be a face for financial funding. And he got it. Most of our management is from Allegiant, whether you like Allegiant or not I don’t care, but that airline is one of the most profitable in the world. You can come to APC, go to another airlines forum and throw a tantrum all you want, but Breeze definitely has a shot at being a great airline. Going to the big three isn’t for everyone. Get over yourself and be a little bit more open minded
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Old 06-09-2024, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage
In fact you have our history completely wrong. Neeleman was asked to be here to be a face for financial funding. And he got it. Most of our management is from Allegiant, whether you like Allegiant or not I don’t care, but that airline is one of the most profitable in the world. You can come to APC, go to another airlines forum and throw a tantrum all you want, but Breeze definitely has a shot at being a great airline. Going to the big three isn’t for everyone. Get over yourself and be a little bit more open minded
I spent 10 ish years at Allegiant. I probably know more than you do. I definitely know the management folks and if you did you wouldn't be bragging about having them lol. They aren't your friends.

Originally Posted by Meowsongaurd
There's two type of lost decade pilots out there. There's one who genuinely happy for all the success that the young generation is seeing, and that I would be happy to sling gear and do a walk around in the snow for any day of the week. Then there's the ones like Margaritaville, that had a supbar career and actively hopes for the downfall of anyone that didn't have to "put in their dues" like he did. Let me guess, "back in your day you had to have shuttle landings to get an interview"? Haven't heard that one before.

I take solice that Breeze lives rent free in his head, and every time he see's one of our blue planes taxiing by he turns to his 25 year old captain and say something along the lines of "can you believe those guy's think they're major airline pilots"

Meow go back to your AA forum and complain about something else that no one will listen to.
​​​​​​​Cool story bruh.
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Old 06-09-2024, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage
In fact you have our history completely wrong. Neeleman was asked to be here to be a face for financial funding. And he got it. Most of our management is from Allegiant, whether you like Allegiant or not I don’t care, but that airline is one of the most profitable in the world. You can come to APC, go to another airlines forum and throw a tantrum all you want, but Breeze definitely has a shot at being a great airline. Going to the big three isn’t for everyone. Get over yourself and be a little bit more open minded
I see you do not understand why Allegiant makes a profit. Breeze may have Breeze management and Breeze style flight schedules l, but to quote Senator Lloyd Bentsen “Breeze, you’re no Allegiant!”
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Old 06-09-2024, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
That's your problem. You're trying to outallegiant allegiant. You will never beat them at that game. They invented that game.

It's kind of surprising that Neeleman showed so little creativity this time. All he did was cut and paste the allegiant business model but hired a bunch of Skywest refugees at Skywest pay to keep costs low and flew used worn out E190s. Then they acquired a bunch of brand new 220s thinking brand new factory warantee airplanes would have extremely low operating costs. Well the 220 has turned out to be a train wreck and the pilots and FAs all went union and will demand pay parity with the majors. Breeze is not making money. Breeze has never made money. Breeze can't make money. If they ever get a market foothold allegiant will just move in there and squash them. PVU is a fine example. It's not long before the investors quit throwing good money after bad and force a sale.
It’s the same three that post on here wishing the demise of Breeze. Went from saying you’ll never make it off the ground, they did. Went from never going to work, folks are loving Breeze. Went from “Skywest” pay to 250+ an hour. Went from you’re losing tons of money you still won’t make it, to oh we’ll margins are better but you still won’t make money. Fact is they just made profit last few months. Breeze is growing, 500+ pilots 90+ planes on order. You guys are still saying the same thing. Not sure what Breeze did to you to wish on their demise but it’s pretty obvious you guys are mad.
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