[Breeze] Airways
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It’s abnormal for them to be parked during the middle of the day, that’s the core concept. Other airlines usually park planes at night and use them during the day, as opposed to leaving them parked always.
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And you breezibois wonder why nobody takes you seriously. Bet you meow on guard too.
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We have a different business model than legacies have. We do not fly everyday of the week, and certain days we fly more than others. It’s market demand, we mimic Allegiant. With 800+ planes, each legacy can afford to run half full planes multiple times a day and it still doesn’t really affect their load factor. We have under 30 planes, so running one or two near empty is not worth it for us. It’s frequency (or lack thereof) of flights here. Regardless, it works and has been working here. Just let corporate do what they do, and we do what we do and everything works out.
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We have a different business model than legacies have. We do not fly everyday of the week, and certain days we fly more than others. It’s market demand, we mimic Allegiant. With 800+ planes, each legacy can afford to run half full planes multiple times a day and it still doesn’t really affect their load factor. We have under 30 planes, so running one or two near empty is not worth it for us. It’s frequency (or lack thereof) of flights here. Regardless, it works and has been working here. Just let corporate do what they do, and we do what we do and everything works out.
yes, corporate is doing what they do. Extract money from the company and cash out at the right time.
yes, you are doing what you do, believe management when they say things are turning around.
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We have a different business model than legacies have. We do not fly everyday of the week, and certain days we fly more than others. It’s market demand, we mimic Allegiant. With 800+ planes, each legacy can afford to run half full planes multiple times a day and it still doesn’t really affect their load factor. We have under 30 planes, so running one or two near empty is not worth it for us. It’s frequency (or lack thereof) of flights here. Regardless, it works and has been working here. Just let corporate do what they do, and we do what we do and everything works out.
It's kind of surprising that Neeleman showed so little creativity this time. All he did was cut and paste the allegiant business model but hired a bunch of Skywest refugees at Skywest pay to keep costs low and flew used worn out E190s. Then they acquired a bunch of brand new 220s thinking brand new factory warantee airplanes would have extremely low operating costs. Well the 220 has turned out to be a train wreck and the pilots and FAs all went union and will demand pay parity with the majors. Breeze is not making money. Breeze has never made money. Breeze can't make money. If they ever get a market foothold allegiant will just move in there and squash them. PVU is a fine example. It's not long before the investors quit throwing good money after bad and force a sale.
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I take solice that Breeze lives rent free in his head, and every time he see's one of our blue planes taxiing by he turns to his 25 year old captain and say something along the lines of "can you believe those guy's think they're major airline pilots"
Meow go back to your AA forum and complain about something else that no one will listen to.
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That's your problem. You're trying to outallegiant allegiant. You will never beat them at that game. They invented that game.
It's kind of surprising that Neeleman showed so little creativity this time. All he did was cut and paste the allegiant business model but hired a bunch of Skywest refugees at Skywest pay to keep costs low and flew used worn out E190s. Then they acquired a bunch of brand new 220s thinking brand new factory warantee airplanes would have extremely low operating costs. Well the 220 has turned out to be a train wreck and the pilots and FAs all went union and will demand pay parity with the majors. Breeze is not making money. Breeze has never made money. Breeze can't make money. If they ever get a market foothold allegiant will just move in there and squash them. PVU is a fine example. It's not long before the investors quit throwing good money after bad and force a sale.
It's kind of surprising that Neeleman showed so little creativity this time. All he did was cut and paste the allegiant business model but hired a bunch of Skywest refugees at Skywest pay to keep costs low and flew used worn out E190s. Then they acquired a bunch of brand new 220s thinking brand new factory warantee airplanes would have extremely low operating costs. Well the 220 has turned out to be a train wreck and the pilots and FAs all went union and will demand pay parity with the majors. Breeze is not making money. Breeze has never made money. Breeze can't make money. If they ever get a market foothold allegiant will just move in there and squash them. PVU is a fine example. It's not long before the investors quit throwing good money after bad and force a sale.
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In fact you have our history completely wrong. Neeleman was asked to be here to be a face for financial funding. And he got it. Most of our management is from Allegiant, whether you like Allegiant or not I don’t care, but that airline is one of the most profitable in the world. You can come to APC, go to another airlines forum and throw a tantrum all you want, but Breeze definitely has a shot at being a great airline. Going to the big three isn’t for everyone. Get over yourself and be a little bit more open minded
There's two type of lost decade pilots out there. There's one who genuinely happy for all the success that the young generation is seeing, and that I would be happy to sling gear and do a walk around in the snow for any day of the week. Then there's the ones like Margaritaville, that had a supbar career and actively hopes for the downfall of anyone that didn't have to "put in their dues" like he did. Let me guess, "back in your day you had to have shuttle landings to get an interview"? Haven't heard that one before.
I take solice that Breeze lives rent free in his head, and every time he see's one of our blue planes taxiing by he turns to his 25 year old captain and say something along the lines of "can you believe those guy's think they're major airline pilots"
Meow go back to your AA forum and complain about something else that no one will listen to.
I take solice that Breeze lives rent free in his head, and every time he see's one of our blue planes taxiing by he turns to his 25 year old captain and say something along the lines of "can you believe those guy's think they're major airline pilots"
Meow go back to your AA forum and complain about something else that no one will listen to.
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In fact you have our history completely wrong. Neeleman was asked to be here to be a face for financial funding. And he got it. Most of our management is from Allegiant, whether you like Allegiant or not I don’t care, but that airline is one of the most profitable in the world. You can come to APC, go to another airlines forum and throw a tantrum all you want, but Breeze definitely has a shot at being a great airline. Going to the big three isn’t for everyone. Get over yourself and be a little bit more open minded
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That's your problem. You're trying to outallegiant allegiant. You will never beat them at that game. They invented that game.
It's kind of surprising that Neeleman showed so little creativity this time. All he did was cut and paste the allegiant business model but hired a bunch of Skywest refugees at Skywest pay to keep costs low and flew used worn out E190s. Then they acquired a bunch of brand new 220s thinking brand new factory warantee airplanes would have extremely low operating costs. Well the 220 has turned out to be a train wreck and the pilots and FAs all went union and will demand pay parity with the majors. Breeze is not making money. Breeze has never made money. Breeze can't make money. If they ever get a market foothold allegiant will just move in there and squash them. PVU is a fine example. It's not long before the investors quit throwing good money after bad and force a sale.
It's kind of surprising that Neeleman showed so little creativity this time. All he did was cut and paste the allegiant business model but hired a bunch of Skywest refugees at Skywest pay to keep costs low and flew used worn out E190s. Then they acquired a bunch of brand new 220s thinking brand new factory warantee airplanes would have extremely low operating costs. Well the 220 has turned out to be a train wreck and the pilots and FAs all went union and will demand pay parity with the majors. Breeze is not making money. Breeze has never made money. Breeze can't make money. If they ever get a market foothold allegiant will just move in there and squash them. PVU is a fine example. It's not long before the investors quit throwing good money after bad and force a sale.
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