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01-24-2024, 04:11 PM
#4651
Turn n burn
Joined APC: Feb 2023
Posts: 38
Not currently going to new hires, but of existing pilots it is very junior. Will depend what happens with growth there as it's been pretty well established for a while now. Past performance does not equal future results, and it is extremely unlikely you would quickly become a senior FO. Could take 6 months to upgrade if you're qualified, or 10 years. It's a crapshoot. Open time in small bases can be limited. Provo has a lot of 4 leg days but also a lot of 2 leg days. I think you meant that, not 4-days. No base here has many 4 days, but you would see more of those in seasonal bases like SAV and VPS.
not hold it in the near future. Currently only has day trips in pvu not a great base for commuters but that could change in the future
01-25-2024, 07:09 AM
#4652
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 56
01-25-2024, 08:28 AM
#4653
Turn n burn
Joined APC: Feb 2023
Posts: 38
Not currently going to new hires, but of existing pilots it is very junior. Will depend what happens with growth there as it's been pretty well established for a while now. Past performance does not equal future results, and it is extremely unlikely you would quickly become a senior FO. Could take 6 months to upgrade if you're qualified, or 10 years. It's a crapshoot. Open time in small bases can be limited. Provo has a lot of 4 leg days but also a lot of 2 leg days. I think you meant that, not 4-days. No base here has many 4 days, but you would see more of those in seasonal bases like SAV and VPS.
01-26-2024, 03:58 PM
#4654
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Joined APC: Aug 2023
Posts: 64
I used to think this was a stupid vanity rumor..... but hear me out.
JetBlue fails to acquire Spirit - JetBlue likely won't be able to acquire anybody else of size - JetBlue needs a way to grow/survive/reinvent itself..... Following me?
Breeze has a common fleet and some routes that are very JetBlue-esq. Overall, JBU can't really grow head to head with 320/321s. They COULD grow with the A220 though... it can profitably serve many new routes others cannot directly compete on (BREEZE). Not full Allegiant, Not full Spirit, but a subtle shift from the current JetBlue.
You cannot tell me Neeleman hasn't thought about a triumphant return to JetBlue...
COME ON IT MAKES SOME SENSE if you think about it.
JetBlue fails to acquire Spirit - JetBlue likely won't be able to acquire anybody else of size - JetBlue needs a way to grow/survive/reinvent itself..... Following me?
Breeze has a common fleet and some routes that are very JetBlue-esq. Overall, JBU can't really grow head to head with 320/321s. They COULD grow with the A220 though... it can profitably serve many new routes others cannot directly compete on (BREEZE). Not full Allegiant, Not full Spirit, but a subtle shift from the current JetBlue.
You cannot tell me Neeleman hasn't thought about a triumphant return to JetBlue...
COME ON IT MAKES SOME SENSE if you think about it.
01-26-2024, 06:00 PM
#4655
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 492
I used to think this was a stupid vanity rumor..... but hear me out.
JetBlue fails to acquire Spirit - JetBlue likely won't be able to acquire anybody else of size - JetBlue needs a way to grow/survive/reinvent itself..... Following me?
Breeze has a common fleet and some routes that are very JetBlue-esq. Overall, JBU can't really grow head to head with 320/321s. They COULD grow with the A220 though... it can profitably serve many new routes others cannot directly compete on (BREEZE). Not full Allegiant, Not full Spirit, but a subtle shift from the current JetBlue.
You cannot tell me Neeleman hasn't thought about a triumphant return to JetBlue...
COME ON IT MAKES SOME SENSE if you think about it.
JetBlue fails to acquire Spirit - JetBlue likely won't be able to acquire anybody else of size - JetBlue needs a way to grow/survive/reinvent itself..... Following me?
Breeze has a common fleet and some routes that are very JetBlue-esq. Overall, JBU can't really grow head to head with 320/321s. They COULD grow with the A220 though... it can profitably serve many new routes others cannot directly compete on (BREEZE). Not full Allegiant, Not full Spirit, but a subtle shift from the current JetBlue.
You cannot tell me Neeleman hasn't thought about a triumphant return to JetBlue...
COME ON IT MAKES SOME SENSE if you think about it.
01-28-2024, 07:27 AM
#4657
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Joined APC: Aug 2023
Posts: 64
I can’t imagine JetBlue wanting to spend half a billion (or more) for an airline that only has 17 A220s, a trash route structure and schedule, and some beat to death 190s that are not even ours. The only thing we offer is 17 A220s and some delivery slots for more. And the PW1500G is having troubles of its own!! Can’t see it happening. Maybe if Breeze actually had the “exponential” growth we were all promised it would be a more attractive dance partner.
I agree with you that the 220 engines aren't out of the woods yet. But I don't see JBU buying Breeze for the airplanes (I don't think we even own our 220s), more so for the reintroduction of traffic and possibly some massive PR from bringing Neeleman back in. Half a Billion?? They were just about to pay 3+ Billion for Spirit.... they can afford it.
Also, whats "trash" about the route structure? You must be a commuter. From March-August, the airplanes are always full so... define trash.
Last edited by leftapproved; 01-28-2024 at 07:38 AM.
01-28-2024, 07:29 AM
#4658
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Joined APC: Aug 2023
Posts: 64
01-28-2024, 07:47 AM
#4659
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,096
For second or third tier majors, it's hard to compete against instant upgrades to $332/hr as soon as they have 350 hours on property and the eventual opportunity to fly WBs at $413/hr.
01-28-2024, 07:58 AM
#4660
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2023
Posts: 17
What's the general morale of the pilot group at breeze right now? Riding a sinking ship? Things are looking up?
I'm interested in coming over, but seems like every couple of weeks some sort of piece comes out that Breeze is running out of money and time. Granted, it does seem these days quite a few 121 passenger carriers except for DL/UA/AA/SW are struggling.
I'm interested in coming over, but seems like every couple of weeks some sort of piece comes out that Breeze is running out of money and time. Granted, it does seem these days quite a few 121 passenger carriers except for DL/UA/AA/SW are struggling.
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