[Breeze] Airways
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How much attrition? Jumping a sinking ship? It was mentioned earlier that there was a 2.5 hour 3 day due to a charter. I think a reply to that was sarcastic, but what are the rules in terms of min day, block or better, etc.
I know its a startup and all, but the competition is crazy right now and a great market for pilots. Why should anyone apply to Breeze when there are so many options?
Seniority? Opportunity for growth? Start up environment?
I know its a startup and all, but the competition is crazy right now and a great market for pilots. Why should anyone apply to Breeze when there are so many options?
Seniority? Opportunity for growth? Start up environment?
“Why should anyone apply to breeze with so many other options?” Seniority , new jets, growth…. Just like any other LCC out there. The start up phase is a nightmare, idk anyone who would like to do that again. I feel bad for Breeze, I really do. It had great potential but management has other plans $$$$. The guys who joined early on were promised a jb + Virgin culture and instead were given allegiant + mesa mentality. I hope it works out for them eventually, they have a really great pilot group whose morale is getting pretty damn low right now.
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The A220 is however a completely different FBW system that incorporates multiple feedback inputs through rate motion feedback and speed sense. To semi quote AvWeek the A220 tries to engage the pilot in what the aircraft is doing. The rest of the Airbus fleet tries to isolate the pilot. The 787 FBW system is similar to the A220 in design thought.
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Ppl apply but only 5% accept the CJO. Most who are leaving are FO’s. Yeah there’s no work rules or min anything man. Scheduling does seem to work with you and JR maning only happens as a last resort.
“Why should anyone apply to breeze with so many other options?” Seniority , new jets, growth…. Just like any other LCC out there. The start up phase is a nightmare, idk anyone who would like to do that again. I feel bad for Breeze, I really do. It had great potential but management has other plans $$$$. The guys who joined early on were promised a jb + Virgin culture and instead were given allegiant + mesa mentality. I hope it works out for them eventually, they have a really great pilot group whose morale is getting pretty damn low right now.
“Why should anyone apply to breeze with so many other options?” Seniority , new jets, growth…. Just like any other LCC out there. The start up phase is a nightmare, idk anyone who would like to do that again. I feel bad for Breeze, I really do. It had great potential but management has other plans $$$$. The guys who joined early on were promised a jb + Virgin culture and instead were given allegiant + mesa mentality. I hope it works out for them eventually, they have a really great pilot group whose morale is getting pretty damn low right now.
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Ppl apply but only 5% accept the CJO. Most who are leaving are FO’s. Yeah there’s no work rules or min anything man. Scheduling does seem to work with you and JR maning only happens as a last resort.
“Why should anyone apply to breeze with so many other options?” Seniority , new jets, growth…. Just like any other LCC out there. The start up phase is a nightmare, idk anyone who would like to do that again. I feel bad for Breeze, I really do. It had great potential but management has other plans $$$$. The guys who joined early on were promised a jb + Virgin culture and instead were given allegiant + mesa mentality. I hope it works out for them eventually, they have a really great pilot group whose morale is getting pretty damn low right now.
“Why should anyone apply to breeze with so many other options?” Seniority , new jets, growth…. Just like any other LCC out there. The start up phase is a nightmare, idk anyone who would like to do that again. I feel bad for Breeze, I really do. It had great potential but management has other plans $$$$. The guys who joined early on were promised a jb + Virgin culture and instead were given allegiant + mesa mentality. I hope it works out for them eventually, they have a really great pilot group whose morale is getting pretty damn low right now.
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wait, so Boeing prices are delusional but Allegiant got them for next to nothing?? Which is it?
just flew on an A321NEO. News Flash. It is not as quiet as you think. In coach you are still crammed together and the engines still make noise. Noise that is just as loud as any other aircraft in it class. Now turbo props are loud.
oh and the people that run the airline care a lot about dispatch reliability. Not if the pilots have a tray table. Oh and I almost forgot passengers have no idea what they are flying on so they don’t oh an Airbus is going to be quiet and comfortable!! I am sure Spirit passengers are saying just that between fist fights.
just flew on an A321NEO. News Flash. It is not as quiet as you think. In coach you are still crammed together and the engines still make noise. Noise that is just as loud as any other aircraft in it class. Now turbo props are loud.
oh and the people that run the airline care a lot about dispatch reliability. Not if the pilots have a tray table. Oh and I almost forgot passengers have no idea what they are flying on so they don’t oh an Airbus is going to be quiet and comfortable!! I am sure Spirit passengers are saying just that between fist fights.
As for the disparaging remark about Spirit passengers, we are far from being the only ones that deal with idiots. Haven’t SWA, United, Delta and AA all had FA’s assaulted? Let’s leave companies out of it.
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As someone who commutes weekly on both types, Airbus are generally way more comfortable and quite. With that said, the Max is very quite as well but you are still in a 737 tube.
As for the disparaging remark about Spirit passengers, we are far from being the only ones that deal with idiots. Haven’t SWA, United, Delta and AA all had FA’s assaulted? Let’s leave companies out of it.
As for the disparaging remark about Spirit passengers, we are far from being the only ones that deal with idiots. Haven’t SWA, United, Delta and AA all had FA’s assaulted? Let’s leave companies out of it.
additionally, 99% of airline passengers don’t know the difference between a 737, a 320 and a tuna fish.
I have heard plenty of comments from people talking about flying in a 737 at Frontier.
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160/hr for a yr 2 CA on the Ejet is still WELL below industry average for that plane. I doubt they care that people are getting A220 pay to fly the Ejet. Its going to be funny seeing Ejet FO's get paid A220 CA pay to fly in the right seat of the Ejet though. But Im Not sure why you bring something like this up when it only affect people currently here as of December. Nobody hired onto the Ejet in 2022 will receive 220 pay.
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