Rroku

Why not? Auto pilot off, auto thrust off, fight directors off, give me the bird. You had the option to fly it if you wanted.

Swapapotamoose

Ppl apply but only 5% accept the CJO. Most who are leaving are FO’s. Yeah there’s no work rules or min anything man. Scheduling does seem to work with you and JR maning only happens as a last resort.
“Why should anyone apply to breeze with so many other options?” Seniority , new jets, growth…. Just like any other LCC out there. The start up phase is a nightmare, idk anyone who would like to do that again. I feel bad for Breeze, I really do. It had great potential but management has other plans $$$$. The guys who joined early on were promised a jb + Virgin culture and instead were given allegiant + mesa mentality. I hope it works out for them eventually, they have a really great pilot group whose morale is getting pretty damn low right now.

sailingfun

Not really, the computer joy stick and the system it’s tied into is a rudimentary FBW system with zero feedback. 70’s FBW technology. It always functions through the auto flight system in a CSS mode unless it downgrades itself into direct law or you turn things off and force it there. For you Boeing guys CWS. I never saw anyone hand fly a Boeing in that mode. The funny thing is the more you move that stick the worse most people fly it as the computers are always trying to correct any attitude changes and you end up working against each other. I have watched guys steering that stick like they are trying to make whipped cream on a bumpy approach. I often ask them to let go of the stick. Things get much better. That’s why you see experience Airbus drivers simply bump the stick now and then when they want a attitude change.
The A220 is however a completely different FBW system that incorporates multiple feedback inputs through rate motion feedback and speed sense. To semi quote AvWeek the A220 tries to engage the pilot in what the aircraft is doing. The rest of the Airbus fleet tries to isolate the pilot. The 787 FBW system is similar to the A220 in design thought.

Sausage

This^^ I’ve been here since the beginning and this is the realistic landscape of this Micky Mouse club called MXY

chihuahua

What do they do for junior manning people? You pull into the gate from your single turn and get told you have a second turn now? Call people on their days off? (everyone should know not to answer the phone on their day off, unless they want to work) Or do they go in after awards come out and put stuff on people's schedules or something ridiculous like that?

Cyio

As someone who commutes weekly on both types, Airbus are generally way more comfortable and quite. With that said, the Max is very quite as well but you are still in a 737 tube.

As for the disparaging remark about Spirit passengers, we are far from being the only ones that deal with idiots. Haven’t SWA, United, Delta and AA all had FA’s assaulted? Let’s leave companies out of it.

jaxsurf

You’re absolutely right.

Spirit pax tend to fist fight each other in the terminal

Cyio

Not my problem then lol

PNWFlyer

my intent is was not to disparage Spirt. Just pointing out the absurdity that any passers is actually comfortable in a ULCC’s seating configuration regardless of aircraft type.

additionally, 99% of airline passengers don’t know the difference between a 737, a 320 and a tuna fish.

I have heard plenty of comments from people talking about flying in a 737 at Frontier.

Tpinks

160/hr for a yr 2 CA on the Ejet is still WELL below industry average for that plane. I doubt they care that people are getting A220 pay to fly the Ejet. Its going to be funny seeing Ejet FO's get paid A220 CA pay to fly in the right seat of the Ejet though. But Im Not sure why you bring something like this up when it only affect people currently here as of December. Nobody hired onto the Ejet in 2022 will receive 220 pay.