[Breeze] Airways
#2344
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If this is not a troll but correct, then its a crying shame anyone is going to them and enabling such atrocious business practices. The Breeze insider investors thank you for making them rich while making your entire profession poorer.
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#2346
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haha. Now that's funny
#2347
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The Breeze aircraft seat 126 total. The Delta aircraft 130. Breeze has a lot more first class seats but tighter pitch in coach. You are going to need to get that seat count way down for 4000 mile flights. Keep in mind you will need lots of Galley space and ovens. Flights of that length typically serve two meals. The A220 will also need bigger waste and water tanks for that type of service. It can’t carry a LD3 container which is a real issue for cargo.
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#2348
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The Breeze aircraft seat 126 total. The Delta aircraft 130. Breeze has a lot more first class seats but tighter pitch in coach. You are going to need to get that seat count way down for 4000 mile flights. Keep in mind you will need lots of Galley space and ovens. Flights of that length typically serve two meals. The A220 will also need bigger waste and water tanks for that type of service. It can’t carry a LD3 container which is a real issue for cargo.
mint: https://thepointsguy.com/reviews/jetblue-mint-a321lr-london
coach: https://thepointsguy.com/news/onboar...don-inaugural/
In other words, lack of galley space is not an issue on an A321. The 220 galleys are pretty tight, but, like with the bus, I don’t think they are impossible to work with either. And I doubt they’d be going for quite the same level of service as a legacy or B6 anyway.
Regarding LD3s, that’s a non-issue. Doubt breeze would have the weight capacity or desire to carry cargo anyway with as low as their trip costs would be.
All that said, I’m not so sure the 220 would be a great trans-Atlantic plane. Performance/weights would likely be tight. They’d probably be better off with XLRs. But I am guessing (actually I’m certain) Neeleman has a better bead on the future potential for the 220 than I do.
#2349
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Those 36 seats, or a chunk of them, would be replaced with lie flats, de-densifying it. Total density would be lower than their domestic config. I’m guessing the 20 “220LRs” with the ACT would have different overall layouts, with lower density, than the rest of their 220 fleet. Regarding the galleys, I think it may have also been you, but either way, naysayers on here said the same about B6’s 321LR galley space issues and lack of cargo space. And somehow B6 manages to have probably the best trans-Atlantic food for both the front and the back of the plane of any US airline
mint: https://thepointsguy.com/reviews/jetblue-mint-a321lr-london
coach: https://thepointsguy.com/news/onboar...don-inaugural/
In other words, lack of galley space is not an issue on an A321. The 220 galleys are pretty tight, but, like with the bus, I don’t think they are impossible to work with either. And I doubt they’d be going for quite the same level of service as a legacy or B6 anyway.
Regarding LD3s, that’s a non-issue. Doubt breeze would have the weight capacity or desire to carry cargo anyway with as low as their trip costs would be.
All that said, I’m not so sure the 220 would be a great trans-Atlantic plane. Performance/weights would likely be tight. They’d probably be better off with XLRs. But I am guessing (actually I’m certain) Neeleman has a better bead on the future potential for the 220 than I do.
mint: https://thepointsguy.com/reviews/jetblue-mint-a321lr-london
coach: https://thepointsguy.com/news/onboar...don-inaugural/
In other words, lack of galley space is not an issue on an A321. The 220 galleys are pretty tight, but, like with the bus, I don’t think they are impossible to work with either. And I doubt they’d be going for quite the same level of service as a legacy or B6 anyway.
Regarding LD3s, that’s a non-issue. Doubt breeze would have the weight capacity or desire to carry cargo anyway with as low as their trip costs would be.
All that said, I’m not so sure the 220 would be a great trans-Atlantic plane. Performance/weights would likely be tight. They’d probably be better off with XLRs. But I am guessing (actually I’m certain) Neeleman has a better bead on the future potential for the 220 than I do.
#2350
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Keep in mind sub fleets are expensive. Delta did everything they could to eliminate subfleets with covid. I don’t think Neeleman has ever used subfleets. Is B6 serving meals in the back? They are also years behind on their international timeline. Covid is a part of it but they are finding it a very expensive operation.
Is B6 serving meals? You should watch some YouTube. Jetblue's Europe economy product is probably the best of any airline.
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