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Old 12-10-2021, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
‘So someone hired today or early next might be looking at a year or so for upgrades realistically with training backlogs and current FOs on property who are in line for the upgrade? I thinking about putting my name in the hat but that FO pay going to hurt but the prospect of a quick upgrade (better pay but not quite industry standard) and living in base is a attractive proposition.
I would forecast 9 months to a year. The quick upgrade ship has sailed on the 190 side of things. Which is exactly why we need to see a better bump in pay and work rules.

If you got hired right now, we’d need about 8 straight months of hiring behind you. 10 airplanes are planned for 2022. So that’s not out of the question.
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Old 12-10-2021, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
A 8:20 block day will never work out of Tampa in the summer with reasonable reliability.
Which is why I foresee the new aircraft eventually being put into a new base to spread the block around after the charter season is over.
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Old 12-11-2021, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
A 8:20 block day will never work out of Tampa in the summer with reasonable reliability.
we literally had 8:20 block days all summer. Yes there were a few times they done wort but for the most part they surprisingly have.
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Old 12-12-2021, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpinks
we literally had 8:20 block days all summer. Yes there were a few times they done wort but for the most part they surprisingly have.
Do you use ACARS? I consider reasonable reliability from a passenger standpoint above the mid nineties. A turn I am sure would be fine but 4 legs in the SE in the summer is going to see you pushing the block limits often.
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Old 12-12-2021, 10:29 AM
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A220 PIC $131/hr? At NetJets 1st year SIC's who pick up extra flying are breaking $150K:

Realistic FO salary at Netjets

The only attraction I see at Breeze is the "getting in on the ground floor" factor or if they have an available base you live in. I don't see how they're going to get enough pilots with the current job market. If you look at other threads you'll see many are convinced the Wholly Owned Regionals are going to have to be folded into mainline in order to get enough pilots.
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Old 12-12-2021, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AirBear
A220 PIC $131/hr? At NetJets 1st year SIC's who pick up extra flying are breaking $150K:

Realistic FO salary at Netjets

The only attraction I see at Breeze is the "getting in on the ground floor" factor or if they have an available base you live in. I don't see how they're going to get enough pilots with the current job market. If you look at other threads you'll see many are convinced the Wholly Owned Regionals are going to have to be folded into mainline in order to get enough pilots.
Nobody knows how Breeze will staff those 220’s. I could see GoJets, commute or whiskey folding and those guys maybe going to breeze but they probably wouldn’t stay. There’s a lot better options out there.
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Old 12-12-2021, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Do you use ACARS? I consider reasonable reliability from a passenger standpoint above the mid nineties. A turn I am sure would be fine but 4 legs in the SE in the summer is going to see you pushing the block limits often.
Of course, who doesn’t use ACARS? Not sure what ACARS has anything to do duty limit days.

There were a few days over the course of the summer where a diversion happened so a reserve crew had to be called in for the second turn but the vast majority of the time it has worked.

I have yet to time out on any day due to block hours. It happened far more frequently flying in and out of NYC or MIA then it appears to affect TPA. I’ve only ever seen TPA backed up on the ground once since this summer and that actually happened last month.
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Old 12-13-2021, 02:46 AM
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Can a new hire hold TPA? And where do someone apply?
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Old 12-13-2021, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Expat007
Can a new hire hold TPA? And where do someone apply?
https://boards.greenhouse.io/breezeairways

What I'm wondering is, did Breeze drop the new hire vaccine mandate and that little blurb about disclosing vaccination status is there just to keep the wokies at Black Rock happy? Are they really making people take weekly covid tests?
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Old 12-13-2021, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua
https://boards.greenhouse.io/breezeairways

What I'm wondering is, did Breeze drop the new hire vaccine mandate and that little blurb about disclosing vaccination status is there just to keep the wokies at Black Rock happy? Are they really making people take weekly covid tests?
yes, there is no mandate. The disclosure did stick around so they know what protocols to use for possible exposures.

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