[Breeze] Airways
#1801
A rising tide lifts all boats. And the converse is true. When someone else comes in and brings down industry 190/195/223 rates, it affects everyone else in negotiations. Just like when Eagle held strong and didn’t accept a concessionary contract, then PSA accepted that same crap contract, everyone got ****ed at PSA. That, and everyone else has to compete against your business that pays substandard wages and therefore has an unfair edge. It’s just another one of those “race to the bottom” things, with “we are just a struggling start up” as the excuse. Same historical playbook. Just writing a new chapter for what should be the second volume of Flying the Line. Don’t fault people for going there. It’s better than a regional. But big picture, kind of screws the industry.
#1802
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Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 39
I might be wrong but I don't think this 80 pilot airline is comparable to Allegiant or Jetblue yet.
#1803
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 29
Breeze wouldn’t be my first choice but Legacy’s and other well established LCC’s aren’t exactly lining up at the door. I suppose I should quit flying and go work at Home Depot so your union has leverage to negotiate.
#1804
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 28
You do know that after Breeze, Allegiant is the next lowest paid right? Why are your pilots willing to work for wages that make it difficult for JetBlue come contract time. They will lose money now because your willing to work for so much less!!!
#1805
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Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 39
Don't worry Margaritaville is sending every breeze pilot letter of recs 🤣
#1806
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 222
Got a rejection letter from Breeze? That's such a lame cliche. Look at my posting history. Been working for Allegiant since long before breeze was even schemed up. I wouldn't make a downward move, and wouldn't even consider breeze unless I was desperate. Their compensation package is terrible.
#1807
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Joined APC: Sep 2021
Posts: 39
Dude you’re talking about breeze and you fly for allegiant 😂. At least breeze has the excuse that they are brand new (no where near making a profit) and fly smaller equipment. G4 makes a ton of cash and still pays you guys garbage. Please tell me how allegiant has helped others negotiate better contracts?? Comparing the 2 I think breeze has the upper hand and they’ve been flying 5 months vs 23 years. Same business model day trips but at least with Breeze you have a chance of being based somewhere decent out of training (CHS TPA). Better than up rooting your family to FNT. Same first year pay but upgrade at breeze in less than a year at 130hr. Their Capt pay will undoubtedly be a least what g4 has within a couple years. I’m not promoting ppl to stay at breeze but it could definitely be a stepping stone until something better shows up.
#1808
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Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 222
Not getting that fresh out of training. You’ll be in FNT or some other crappy base they have. Oh and at least breeze gives you $1500 a month to cover an apartment or pay for hotels. G4 gives nothing and they’re the same rate first year. Breeze needs to improve but the G4 guy should be the last one calling ppl sellout cockroaches.
#1809
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Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 105
Here's a thought!.. How much is spending time with your wife/husband/ and kids worth? How much is it worth to be there for all those games, those parent nights, those birthdays.. church. How much does a pilot have to make per hour before that silly family stuff is worth less than all that pay?
Spolier alert.. that number is relative to each of us. And quite frankly, it's none of any one else's business what my family is worth to you. I only answer to them. And for many people at Breeze who are here because being home every night, and at least all day three days a week, it is worth way more than what you value it to be, this is why many people are here.
Call us crazy. But our families love seeing us every day. 🤷♂️
Cockroaches? Seriously.. enjoy your divorce (es).
#1810
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 105
Heres a thought!.. How much is spending time with your wife/husband/ and kids worth? How much is it worth to be there for all those games, those parent nights, those birthdays.. church. How much does a pilot have to make per hour before that silly family stuff is worth less than all that pay?
Spolier alert.. that number is relative to each of us. And quite frankly, it's none of any one else's business what my family is worth to you. I only answer to them. And for many people at Breeze who are here because being home every night, and at least all day three days a week, it is worth way more than what you value it to be, and this is why many people are here.
Call us crazy. But our families love seeing us every day. 🤷♂️
Cockroaches? Seriously.. enjoy your divorce (es).
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