[Breeze] Airways
#1761
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Joined APC: Aug 2021
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I am hoping to get honest intel about Breeze. I've read through all the comments. Not looking for judgement, just facts. I think it would be helpful to gather as much known info in one place. If you know the answers personally please help out.
1. A220 Pay Rates CA/FO
2. Benefits (retirement)
3. Stock Options if any
4. Benefits (medical)
5. Benefits (vacation)
6. A220 Bases
7. Pilots on Seniority List (05OCT21)
8. Commuter Benefits if any
1. A220 Pay Rates CA/FO
2. Benefits (retirement)
3. Stock Options if any
4. Benefits (medical)
5. Benefits (vacation)
6. A220 Bases
7. Pilots on Seniority List (05OCT21)
8. Commuter Benefits if any
#1762
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 28
Haha. Okay junior. Call me back when you have 25 years in the airline industry. You don't know what you don't know.
In the early days of the airlines, thats exactly what this would have been called. Read Flying The Line sometime. It should be required reading for anyone who wants to play airline pilot.
In the early days of the airlines, thats exactly what this would have been called. Read Flying The Line sometime. It should be required reading for anyone who wants to play airline pilot.
#1764
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/pres...mbly-line.html
it’s painted. It’s coming. They aren’t ghost rates like the 220 rates at UAL/AA. Your rates are relevant. And yeah, you have at least one pilot in 220 training. So, what rate will he fly at for delivery/repo flights/proving runs? Think it’ll change between now and then? Hope it does!
it’s painted. It’s coming. They aren’t ghost rates like the 220 rates at UAL/AA. Your rates are relevant. And yeah, you have at least one pilot in 220 training. So, what rate will he fly at for delivery/repo flights/proving runs? Think it’ll change between now and then? Hope it does!
#1766
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 134
1) do you have 220s on property? Yes.
2) do you have pilots in 220 training? Yes.
3) does that make your rates relevant? Yes.
4) do you have a current rate for them? I think you do from what a buddy told me. I think it’s a blended rate (ie the same rate as your abysmal 190 rates).
please correct any of the above, as I don’t work there, just trying to get some info in case I want to put in an app there.
2) do you have pilots in 220 training? Yes.
3) does that make your rates relevant? Yes.
4) do you have a current rate for them? I think you do from what a buddy told me. I think it’s a blended rate (ie the same rate as your abysmal 190 rates).
please correct any of the above, as I don’t work there, just trying to get some info in case I want to put in an app there.
#1767
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At this point in its development, you can’t compare Breeze to the majors. However, it would be in Breeze’s best interest if they want to retain good and experienced employees to pay JB-level wages sooner than later.
#1768
#1769
They have to be... you can get away with plugging a mediocre pilot into a well oiled machine. But a startup needs people who can cope with ambiguity and solve problems (and train others too).
#1770
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 845
While I agree that the wages are comparatively very low vs the majors and pilots clearly deserve far better, remember that Breeze is also a startup. Absolutely NOT defending the low wages, just saying that you probably can’t make money (or maybe even break even) as a start up paying employees JB or Delta wages right off the bat.
At this point in its development, you can’t compare Breeze to the majors. However, it would be in Breeze’s best interest if they want to retain good and experienced employees to pay JB-level wages sooner than later.
At this point in its development, you can’t compare Breeze to the majors. However, it would be in Breeze’s best interest if they want to retain good and experienced employees to pay JB-level wages sooner than later.
When the vast majority of our list came here, it was before the Pilot play book even came out with the work rules. With great work rules, bad pay is palatable for a short period of time, but that wasn’t the case. Not a single person at Breeze feels what we are being paid is fair or inline with what we should be paid for the aircraft we are flying. But the majority of us are working to make things better and the company is actively listening and making changes. And the reality is, if they don’t make changes they will continue to lose Captains to other mainlines and FO’s to other LCC’s… so it more or less has to go up if they want to be able to expand at the rate they have planned.
We have literally been flying 4 months.
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