BobbyLeeSwagger

Was that a short lived policy or was this whole thing just made up or misunderstood from something else?

Look I really don't care, personally, I'm just trying to clarify all this because it sounds like I/we got this wrong.. but I would wager that something was told in one of those emails (and I haven't seen them) that at a minimum gave the impression that y'all would be paying for soda.

This scene sums breeze up perfectly lol

https://youtu.be/1pzV9GoSuys

PNWFlyer

but what if you want 2 waters? Or an extra soda for the road?

Oh, and it’s Greyhound… not Grey Hound. They are not Delta… but maybe that is what you were told???

Aaronyeger

Non alcoholic beverages to your hearts content!

What about delta?

PNWFlyer

If you don’t know, I hope you never need a job there one day.

BeatNavy

Is this a new development? Because a week ago they wanted to charge you guys and give you a 25% discount, correct?

PNWFlyer

I am willing to bet this was the case, it was quickly met with resistance and abandoned.

Tpinks

I think both. The email we got was a forwarded email, it wasn’t from someone in flight Ops but someone else within the company. The water bottles being referred to were not the small free 4oz ones you saw, but a full size water bottle.

the follow up email to clarify everything says everything is free to crews. Snacks are not specifically mentioned, but snacks were never officially free to anyone on DL/AA/UA either… The one free bottle came from the way the deal was structured with the provider of the catering and supposedly was for accounting purposes, not to limit crew members in what they can have.

so no, I don’t know the exact answer. If I had to guess it’s somewhere in between the two, but in either case, water was never being charged for and the “policy” is gone.

Tpinks

There were 16 pilots all on higher than year one pay in 2021. There was a reason why 55MMg was a thing, because we had pilots on the seniority list prior to the pandemic that were still getting paid through it. As for the pay year… it’s not my place to share what initial Pilots were offered to set up an airline. But it’s ridiculous you would assume they would be started at year one.

As for when the pay increase will come, “By the end of this month” is reasonable based off of what I do know. But I’m not going to say it will be done by then when I ultimately have no control over that.

At the end of the day, we have already lost 11 pilots to date that I know of, some of who are posting in this thread. The company is aware of the current pay issues and is attempting to fix it. How much of a fix it will be, I have no clue, only time will tell.

BeatNavy

Year 3 pay is about $10 an hour higher than year 1 pay if I’m not mistaken. Year 1, year 3, doesn’t matter. Could be year 7 pay and it’s still abysmal.

BobbyLeeSwagger

Hope you guys get it figured out. Thanks for clarifying the water thing too.