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Old 05-08-2021, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
According to the advisory circular it’s wing span and tail height.
The word “group” is broadly used and doesn’t refer to one particular thing. For FA certification, Rick is correct. I don’t know which AC you’re referring to, but it sounds like you’re referring to aircraft group classifications as it relates to airport and runway certification.
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Old 05-08-2021, 12:02 PM
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And people are applying and still don’t know where the pilot bases will be? Wow - that takes a leap of faith at this point! I would hope the bases will be in relatively affordable locations.
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Originally Posted by N914FJ
starting to wonder too..seems like Avelo was on a similar timeline and they are already flying pax
No they weren’t because Avelo reused an existing certificate.


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Old 05-10-2021, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ElCaribe
Incorrect. It’s under-wing mounted engines.
Did you read the AC? I did. Try again.
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Old 05-10-2021, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK
The word “group” is broadly used and doesn’t refer to one particular thing. For FA certification, Rick is correct. I don’t know which AC you’re referring to, but it sounds like you’re referring to aircraft group classifications as it relates to airport and runway certification.
Thats what’s in the AC that was referenced. So yes. But I don’t know for certain that’s what Breeze is talking about hence my asking what group II meant.
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Old 05-10-2021, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Did you read the AC? I did. Try again.
It’s like you don’t even read APC. Sarcasm detector broken?
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Old 05-10-2021, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
What is Group II?
It is based on wing span and tail height. Do you guys ever read the text of a NOTAM? For example, a taxiway will be closed to Group III or larger aircraft. Most times they also include the wingspan limits but not always and then you must know what Group number your aircraft is in.

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...ive-201705.pdf
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Old 05-10-2021, 02:55 PM
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Yeah, it’s weird they define group II transport category aircraft as “turbojet aircraft of more than 41,000 lbs. maximum takeoff weight” when there doesn’t seem to be any correlation or definition relating a “group II” and 41,000lbs. There are two 41,000lb delineations in the following link, wake category and weight category. But neither of them is called group II, see page 4/5: https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/...der_7360.1.pdf The only “group II” I can find is as discussed above (aircraft design group) which is wingspan and tail height. See page 14 here: https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...ive-201612.pdf

Maybe this is indicative of why it’s taking them such a long time to get FAA approval
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Originally Posted by ethan17
The job postings say "The Southern USA" FWIW
Lmao you got to be kidding me.
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Old 05-11-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ethan17
The job postings say "The Southern USA" FWIW
Sorry, the ambiguity is lame if you want to apply and limit a potential commute. Hope we find out more this week. Would be interesting to see if the E-Jets and A220s have similar or different base opportunities.
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