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Old 10-17-2018, 10:57 AM
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Met someone in Chicago that claimed to be associated with this. Sounds like they are going to buy an existing privately owned regional airline and transition it to 'mainline' aircraft. Also said 'moxy' won't be the airline name. Just used for fund raising.

edit: spoke very vaguely about it. I don't have any additional details.
Are there any privately owned regionals left?
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:22 AM
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Are there any privately owned regionals left?
Privately owned by holding companies are not uncommon

Skywest
ExpreesJet
Compass
TSA
GoJet

Among others
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Smart way to keep their payrates down they could offer pay scales $.50 on the dollar of regular C-series carriers and the regional lifers would vote yes. Along with all the savings of having a turn key operation.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:54 PM
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Are there any privately owned regionals left?
Island Air’s is for sale
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:00 PM
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Silver Airways is also privately owned
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Old 10-17-2018, 02:28 PM
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Air Wisconsin.... only true privately held regional carrier remaining. Very wealthy overlords.

Doubtful a regional carrier would be bought to bring the new carrier to life. It’s not David Neeleman style.

Not one of his startups: Airline creation started with purchasing a Regional carrier.

Morris Air
WestJet
JetBlue Airways
Azul (Brazilian Airlines).

Even as TAP Air Portugal co-owner, he did not dab into purchasing regionals.
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JetSuite X is going through a rapid expansion here in Dallas, and hiring like crazy. This is surprising as they do not currently have any flights that touch the metroplex. That being said, their current strategy seems to be a bit more upmarket than the standard regional...seems like it could possibly align with Moxy...
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Originally Posted by Varsity
Met someone in Chicago that claimed to be associated with this. Sounds like they are going to buy an existing privately owned regional airline and transition it to 'mainline' aircraft. Also said 'moxy' won't be the airline name. Just used for fund raising.

edit: spoke very vaguely about it. I don't have any additional details.
That would make sense if they were buying an E Jet operator and replacing the fleet with the E2.
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Old 10-17-2018, 03:14 PM
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Doubtful a regional carrier would be bought to bring the new carrier to life. It’s not David Neeleman style.
Obvious disadvantage is inheriting an existing presumably unionized pilot group, which could then ask for and probably get industry-average NB rates... probably not what a startup really wants, since they are all about leveraging and cashing in on low longevity and startup mentality sacrifice. A crusty, bitter, old regional pilot group won't be going for that koolaid...

But in this climate, that might be the only choice to acquire experienced, competent pilots. I saw that as the real show-stopper for a startup right now, but it might work if he "saves" some smaller regional from their inevitable fate.
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
Met someone in Chicago that claimed to be associated with this. Sounds like they are going to buy an existing privately owned regional airline and transition it to 'mainline' aircraft. Also said 'moxy' won't be the airline name. Just used for fund raising.

edit: spoke very vaguely about it. I don't have any additional details.

This would be the most likely scenario in my opinion. It solves all the problems. Find a struggling regional carrier that is shrinking due to pilot attrition, maybe one that doesn't have pay scales based on the number of seats, and transition out of the regional airline business slowly.

At this point, you are adding a new aircraft type to your certificate, slowly adding airplanes and crews with a new business model, all while shutting down the fee for departure model and letting contracts with major airlines just expire.

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