JamesNoBrakes

Even this guy gets it:

atpcliff

5 Myths about Climate Change:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opini...206-story.html

250,000 deaths a year from climate change is a 'conservative estimate'
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/healt...udy/index.html

galaxy flyer

And I thought too many people were the problem, so why isn’t reducing population the fix?

GF

HIFLYR

O please climate change is all about redistribution of wealth and control, even those in charge have admitted it.

Ottmar Edenhofer, lead author of the IPCC's fourth summary report released in 2007, speaking in 2010 advised:

"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world's wealth."

U.N. climate chief Christiana Figueres said that:

the true aim of the U.N.'s 2014 Paris climate conference was "to change the (capitalist) economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution."

Christine Stewart, Canada's former Minister of the Environment said:

"No matter if the science is all phony, there are collateral environmental benefits. ... Climate change (provides) the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world."

Tim Wirth, former U.S. Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs and the person most responsible for setting up the Kyoto Protocol said:

"We've got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy."

The second article is full of could be, might be etc. and it lists starvation, malaria, diarrhea, heat stress and malnutrition which have been killing people in developing countries for decades.

Hetman

^ This ^

The problem, apparently, is not too many people; it is too many RICH people.

atpcliff

Instead of you and your family dying in a climate change-induced storm, most people would prefer that we voluntarily reduce our population down to a level that we can support with current resources and technology. We all think that we are safe and secure in our US locations, and the the Climate Crisis will affect only "others". We are wrong.

The economic downturn from having to move all the people out of S. Florida, and to somewhere else that is safer, will be MUCH WORSE than the 2008 downturn. It will really suck to have an $850K S FL property suddenly valued at $0, and find you have to move out of it, especially if you still have a large mortgage.

galaxy flyer

First, how can the WHO can with any accuracy predict that 20 years from now that there will be 250,000 additional deaths directly attributable to climate change defies belief? That’s simply not possible.

Second, millions of buyers in areas that are predicted to be effected by climate change are putting “skin in the game”. They have long time horizons, are generally smart (unless you think Obama is a dummy) and knowledgeable. Their decisions tell us more than a teenagers scripted speeches.

You and others seem to believe million dollar home owners in SoBe are going to wake up one day flooded out.

GF

Fdxlag2

Trump’s America reduced our CO2 output, I’ll wait while you list the other countries.

HIFLYR

I will bet you the gentlemanly wager of 1.00 usd just like in the movie Trading Places that 50yrs from now South Florida and the Florida Keys will still be pretty much the way they are now. I can only go 50 years as I am 57 now and this is if we just hold the current environmental improvements in place.

Aeirum

This thread is on par with flat earther discussions. It reminds me of this one time in Montreal where a U.S. Captain with a southern accent was loudly trying to convince a Canadian passenger that winter and snow tire requirements were a government hoax.

Pilots... we know, just ask us