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Old 08-18-2018, 07:47 AM
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Being a non climate scientist was never an issue when you guys were building your “consensus” that CO2 is very very bad and will lead to Florida submerging by 2015.
I have no idea what you're talking about. How about we just stick with the consensus amongst climate scientists -- and leave the media, Al Gore, bloggers, and "Snowball" Inhof out of it.
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How about we just stick with the consensus amongst climate scientists
They don't want to do that because then they have to admit the obvious truth and their honorary membership in the flat-earth society.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I have no idea what you're talking about. How about we just stick with the consensus amongst climate scientists -- and leave the media, Al Gore, bloggers, and "Snowball" Inhof out of it.
The media does all the heavy lifting for CC, they can't be ignored. Most information out there on CC is the opinion of journalists. The "consensus among scientists" is a media tag line applied to explain any topic on CC. There is no consensus on the underlying mechanisms of CC.

As an example, the wild fires in California are being blamed on climate change. That is strictly a journalist opinion, that is not a view that actual scientists hold. Just like when CNN reported that flight MH370 exceeded the speed of light opening up a singularity, is not a view held by actual pilots, or anyone sane.

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I have no idea what you're talking about. How about we just stick with the consensus amongst climate scientists -- and leave the media, Al Gore, bloggers, and "Snowball" Inhof out of it.
Fair enough, provided that all of those people shut up. I doubt they will, though.
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There is no consensus on the underlying mechanisms of CC.
Complete and utter BS.

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warmin...e#.W3jBwC3MwWo

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/306/5702/1686
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I have no idea what you're talking about. How about we just stick with the consensus amongst climate scientists -- and leave the media, Al Gore, bloggers, and "Snowball" Inhof out of it.
First define climate scientist, then show me their consensus and explain why a physicist, chemist, or hell a geologist can’t explain CO2, but Bill Nye the engineering guy can. Next define how many “climate scientists” claim humans cause climate change. Next tell me how much of the climate change is caused by humans and how much is attributed to volcanic or solar activity.

And the bottom line is your climate scientists still ignore water vapor as a greenhouse gas because they can’t explain its effect and it is the most prominent green house gas. BTW, thanks to fracking, the US has reduced its CO2 emmisions while the rest of the world hasn’t. But it still got hot this summer.
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None of those three links have anything to do with my post. I'm not talking about whether CC is real, I'm talking about the underlying mechanisms contributing to the cause of the warming. CO2 is NOT a black body emitter, so the climate temperature has to increase, before more CO2 can be added to the atmosphere. This is important, because if humans weren't pumping out CO2, the ~400ppm level would be exactly the same as it is now. During the Paleocene era when CO2 was over ~2000ppm, the CO2 concentration lagged temperatures by about 2000 years. There is no scientific consensus on how this relationship works.
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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
First define climate scientist, then show me their consensus and explain why a physicist, chemist, or hell a geologist can’t explain CO2, but Bill Nye the engineering guy can. Next define how many “climate scientists” claim humans cause climate change. Next tell me how much of the climate change is caused by humans and how much is attributed to volcanic or solar activity.

And the bottom line is your climate scientists still ignore water vapor as a greenhouse gas because they can’t explain its effect and it is the most prominent green house gas. BTW, thanks to fracking, the US has reduced its CO2 emmisions while the rest of the world hasn’t. But it still got hot this summer.
Would you trust the self-serving, partisan, agenda-grabbing nuts over at NASA?
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

How about theses guys?The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change | Science

https://www.skepticalscience.com/glo...termediate.htm

The evidence of consensus is quite clear if you remove the blinders of what you want to believe and open your mind to the facts.

In any event, there's really no reason to continue with this back-and-forth is there? I'd wager the probability of us not changing each other's mind at --- 97%
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Would you trust the self-serving, partisan, agenda-grabbing nuts over at NASA?
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

How about theses guys?The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change | Science

https://www.skepticalscience.com/glo...termediate.htm

The evidence of consensus is quite clear if you remove the blinders of what you want to believe and open your mind to the facts.

In any event, there's really no reason to continue with this back-and-forth is there? I'd wager the probability of us not changing each other's mind at --- 97%
Okay, let's say you're 100% right, so now what? Park all of Delta's aircraft, and go on unemployment? That's what you are asking for.
We could have had clean nuclear power, if the left hadn't poopoo'd about it. Solar and wind actually increase our dependence on WMGHG's. We could have avoided all of this, but mismanagement from the left, set us back, perhaps forever.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Okay, let's say you're 100% right, so now what? Park all of Delta's aircraft, and go on unemployment? That's what you are asking for.
We could have had clean nuclear power, if the left hadn't poopoo'd about it. Solar and wind actually increase our dependence on WMGHG's. We could have avoided all of this, but mismanagement from the left, set us back, perhaps forever.
Of course, climate change is all the fault of the left. My God take off the partisan blinders, Mesabah.

Renewable, solar, nuclear, carbon tax.
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