ICON bankrupt
04-24-2024, 03:10 PM
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Probably the only airplane I have NOT wanted to own. Worst of both worlds of a boat and a plane.
Maybe if you had two lake houses and wanted to fly between them it would be useful? I'm not sure what the target market or mission was other than a few rich persons plaything.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...-11-bankruptcy
Maybe if you had two lake houses and wanted to fly between them it would be useful? I'm not sure what the target market or mission was other than a few rich persons plaything.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...-11-bankruptcy
04-24-2024, 03:53 PM
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Probably the only airplane I have NOT wanted to own. Worst of both worlds of a boat and a plane.
Maybe if you had two lake houses and wanted to fly between them it would be useful? I'm not sure what the target market or mission was other than a few rich persons plaything.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/general-aviation/2024-04-08/icon-aircraft-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy
Maybe if you had two lake houses and wanted to fly between them it would be useful? I'm not sure what the target market or mission was other than a few rich persons plaything.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/general-aviation/2024-04-08/icon-aircraft-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy
04-24-2024, 06:00 PM
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Apparently the original poster hasn't flown a Lake Amphibian, or any other amphib. Or seaplane.
I wasn't impressed with the Chinese sale.
Icon pushed to market their airplane as car-like, much as Cirrus, and up-scale and up-price in a way that may have missed a wider target market. They also had a weird, cliquish thing going within the company; all instructors and demo pilots were military buddies; a closed kind of group that brought a different dynamic to the operation which was not necessarily in harmony with general aviation.
I wasn't impressed with the Chinese sale.
Icon pushed to market their airplane as car-like, much as Cirrus, and up-scale and up-price in a way that may have missed a wider target market. They also had a weird, cliquish thing going within the company; all instructors and demo pilots were military buddies; a closed kind of group that brought a different dynamic to the operation which was not necessarily in harmony with general aviation.
04-25-2024, 09:59 AM
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Floats, and especially a hull ("flying boat") do offer advantages in a single engine airplane, in the even tof a power loss and subsequent off-field forced landing. The Icon does one better with a ballistic parachute. Options.
It also has the decided advantage, when flying over water as a single engine piston airplane, of choices in a forced landing that aren't available to land-airplanes. Airplanes with a hull tend to be a bit more aerodynamic than floats on land airplanes, thus faster and less draggy.
It also has the decided advantage, when flying over water as a single engine piston airplane, of choices in a forced landing that aren't available to land-airplanes. Airplanes with a hull tend to be a bit more aerodynamic than floats on land airplanes, thus faster and less draggy.
04-25-2024, 08:32 PM
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https://www.wingtents.com/product-page/wingtent
A camping boat wouldn't fly well, and a nice flyer won't have room to sleep. Same reason we won't have a nice flying car anytime soon.
I guess I applaud the ambition.
04-25-2024, 10:00 PM
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Apparently the original poster hasn't flown a Lake Amphibian, or any other amphib. Or seaplane.
I wasn't impressed with the Chinese sale.
Icon pushed to market their airplane as car-like, much as Cirrus, and up-scale and up-price in a way that may have missed a wider target market. They also had a weird, cliquish thing going within the company; all instructors and demo pilots were military buddies; a closed kind of group that brought a different dynamic to the operation which was not necessarily in harmony with general aviation.
I wasn't impressed with the Chinese sale.
Icon pushed to market their airplane as car-like, much as Cirrus, and up-scale and up-price in a way that may have missed a wider target market. They also had a weird, cliquish thing going within the company; all instructors and demo pilots were military buddies; a closed kind of group that brought a different dynamic to the operation which was not necessarily in harmony with general aviation.
04-25-2024, 10:47 PM
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You'e never flown one, have you? Any hulled aircraft? Seaplane? Nothing flies like your Cessna, is that it? Do you sleep in that? How is it relevant, or important?
04-26-2024, 08:52 PM
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Better off getting a high wing and just using something like this:
https://www.wingtents.com/product-page/wingtent
A camping boat wouldn't fly well, and a nice flyer won't have room to sleep. Same reason we won't have a nice flying car anytime soon.
I guess I applaud the ambition.
https://www.wingtents.com/product-page/wingtent
A camping boat wouldn't fly well, and a nice flyer won't have room to sleep. Same reason we won't have a nice flying car anytime soon.
I guess I applaud the ambition.
Grandad flew PBY's in the war.
04-28-2024, 07:00 AM
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