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Old 07-24-2017, 12:06 AM
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I think the safest, for the near future, will be a human and AI/robot. The AI can do a lot of stuff safely, and prevent the human from doing something stupid, while the human can take over if the computer quits, or is hacked into...
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Originally Posted by PowerShift
The question is not a matter of science or "if" it's an economical question? What's cheaper? You should be speaking with an actuarial department at an insurance company. What are the insurance rates going to be for single pilot? That coupled with the cost to retrofit thousands of airframes to "single pilot ops" or single pilot with a virtual F.O. in some capacity may be cost prohibitive.
Insurance will go way down with automation, especially if Musk gets his federal NVICP type program for AI.
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You should get out of the 141 school and into programming/coding ASAP.


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There's no way retrofit is imagined; they didn't retrofit out the F/E except for some MD-10s. It'll be single-pilot with a remote "co-pilot" if anything.

Also, the government regulators tend toward former military people (retirement plans, connections, experience drive this fact) who in 10-20 years will arrive in HQ FAA with significant drone experience shaping their opinions.

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Originally Posted by CBreezy
This is a little tinfoil hat for me. I can't wait for all highway driving to be required to use auto-drive. Traffic jams will be a thing of the past.
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I don't know how realistic a threat to self driving cars hacking is. The cars are pretty much a closed system, i believe. So short of plugging in a thumb drive with hacked software, how can one cause your traffic jam on the Brooklyn Bridge?
I tip my tinfoil hat in your general direction, boys...

In the future, please don't use that term, unless referring to something like chemtrails. It cheapens the term needlessly.
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Old 07-24-2017, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I'm just guessing of course, but I bet the new Boeing won't be designed for single pilot or remote operation in any way. In fact, I bet it's an exact copy of the 737 flight deck.
Fixed that for ya. No way WN or AS would buy something state of the art. That would require a new type and a bunch of new sims.
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Also, the government regulators tend toward former military people (retirement plans, connections, experience drive this fact) who in 10-20 years will arrive in HQ FAA with significant drone experience shaping their opinions.

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If they are former military pilots who were involuntarily assigned to UAVs, they will be on a furious jihad to ban all drones!
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Yes. There will be a learning curve. I still fully support cars becoming fully or mostly automated.
The question wasn't about learning curves. It was about how hard it is to hack a supposedly "closed" system.

The answer, it seems, is "not that hard at all".

I live in Dade County. Trust me; I fully support and can't wait for autonomous driving.

Having to break out my Mad Max gear every time I need to go to work is getting old.
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A Robot Copilot Just Flew?and Landed?a 737 Sim

I think its very likely you will see these AI / robot copilots within 5-10 years. First in military capacity like the C17's and tankers then I would guess it would move to civilian cargo before passenger service. You might see the robot replace the relief pilot first. You know they call that "dozing for dollars"

Imagine the Robot pilot, Never complains, calls in sick, works 24 / 7. If the captain is doing something non SOP it will call him / her on it. And it will email the Chief pilot right away with a video and data of what the captain did. You can't hurt HAL's feelings.

I read Aviation Week and Popular Mechanics and other business trades on a regular basis. Its coming a lot faster than you think. Just 20 years ago I had to call my answering machine from a payphone to see if I had any messages. Now I'm texting my friend In Europe and have the whole world of answers in my hand.

I have about 16 years left. I don't think I'll see it at my airline, but definitely in Cargo by the time I retire.
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So it sounds like the airlines would have to phase out the older planes, rather than going all single pilot (797 or something similar) or converting them to single pilot/monitor on the ground. Kind of like how the FE was replaced over time. I have over 40 years left. Maybe I should look into a drone license or pick up another skill set. Any ideas out there?
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