The Future Of Artificial Intelligence
11-08-2018, 08:20 PM
#183
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The cost savings are a domino effect. I calculated for example just the customer savings on a trans pac flight going from four to two pilots would save each customer $100. And that was just in direct and indirect labor costs. It ignores reduced managment footprint, less sims/training IPs, reduced sick/canceled/delayed flights, less worry on scheduling issues, less hotel rooms, the list is practically endless.
11-08-2018, 10:13 PM
#184
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Starting at $220/hr x two pilots. Add 16% for 401k. Add another 10% for benefits such as healthcare. And run at 33% reserves (actually low but I was conservative. 30 hours block on the longest legs (roughly). Our 788's hold 228. Comes out to $98 per pax. And that doesn't count all the extra headcount to support two pilots in training.
11-09-2018, 10:25 AM
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Starting at $220/hr x two pilots. Add 16% for 401k. Add another 10% for benefits such as healthcare. And run at 33% reserves (actually low but I was conservative. 30 hours block on the longest legs (roughly). Our 788's hold 228. Comes out to $98 per pax. And that doesn't count all the extra headcount to support two pilots in training.
11-09-2018, 11:03 AM
#186
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11-19-2018, 09:15 PM
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Humans Remain Up Front
People don't need to be kicked out of the flight deck so long as they keep getting cheaper. Imagine a future where two people seated up front wearing pilot uniforms promoting the image that human hands have a valuable input into the flight.
Slowly but steadily automation is taking over. The supposed "pilot shortage" is going to help it along. It's not going to take very long either. The issue is in regards to pay and not about losing jobs.
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Slowly but steadily automation is taking over. The supposed "pilot shortage" is going to help it along. It's not going to take very long either. The issue is in regards to pay and not about losing jobs.
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11-20-2018, 01:05 PM
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The regulations will be interesting. Currently, two crew must be on the flight deck for safety sake. This is to prevent a repeat of the Germanwings incident. Now how do you summarily prevent such an occurrence unless you eliminate the ability of the sole pilot aboard from taking control? In the flight levels, you’ll be on O2 every flight. That can be managed with an annoying alarm and consumption figures after each flight.
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11-20-2018, 06:45 PM
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The regulations will be interesting. Currently, two crew must be on the flight deck for safety sake. This is to prevent a repeat of the Germanwings incident. Now how do you summarily prevent such an occurrence unless you eliminate the ability of the sole pilot aboard from taking control? In the flight levels, you’ll be on O2 every flight. That can be managed with an annoying alarm and consumption figures after each flight.
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Set an altitude below the EGPWS floor for that area and it stops. No matter what you do. "I can't let you do that, Dave".
And don't say shut the engines down. Without abnormal indications the computer won't let you do that, either.
Jeez you guys are so last century thinkers.
Think about how a drone works. You turn it on, without ever operating one. It knows where it is. You tell it to go to xyz, it takes off, flies, and returns and lands all on its own.
That is where we are headed. The technology exists. It works. The only thing stopping it is regulations.
How did that work out for the radio operator, navigator, or flight engineer?
Not to mention, if you think about it, your argument for having TWO pilots is because one might fly it into the ground.
IMO, that is a reason to have ZERO pilots. In the same line of thinking, since the vast majority of accidents these days are pilot error, that is also a reason to have ZERO pilots - it will improve safety.
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