P 135 age 65
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i know this has been discussed many times over but here is something i havent seen on here. If you are flying say to the EU on a 135 charter and its more than 10 hours and have the need for a third pilot,can that pilot be over age 65 as long as he doesnt operate into the EU ,but only is augmented for cruise on the flight deck rotation?
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Don't know.
The open-water portion of the flight falls under some ICAO rules, so you might be limited by that. 14 CFR 91.703
Serarch the FAA website for legal interpretations. If that hasn't been addressed, you might have to submit a request for interpretation and see what they say.
The open-water portion of the flight falls under some ICAO rules, so you might be limited by that. 14 CFR 91.703
Serarch the FAA website for legal interpretations. If that hasn't been addressed, you might have to submit a request for interpretation and see what they say.
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i know this has been discussed many times over but here is something i havent seen on here. If you are flying say to the EU on a 135 charter and its more than 10 hours and have the need for a third pilot,can that pilot be over age 65 as long as he doesnt operate into the EU ,but only is augmented for cruise on the flight deck rotation?
The duty limits apply to all crew according to the crew compliment; that pilot doesn't simply go off duty mid-flight, regardless of the destination. By adding that additional crew member, the operation has shifted from 135.267 to 135.269, three and four pilot crews. At least two of those pilots must be PIC qualified under the certificate and regulation, and the crew has a eighteen hour duty limitation. Whether the crew exceeds fourteen hours or eats into their eighteen hours or not, they're still a three-pilot crew, as assigned, and as evidenced by the need to exceed 8 hours flying time. One does not revert from 135.269 to 135.267 during the flight.
It doesn't matter about the age of the pilot doing the landing; you're asking about the age of the pilot operating into the EU, and whether the age 65+ pilot is in the pillot seat or not, (s)he is still operating into the EU as a crewmember on that flight.
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