DUI Dismissed: After 3yrs FAA investigates
11-03-2017, 05:17 PM
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Who is Hogan?
Hogan's Heroes?
and I never did sleep with police officer's wife but she did flirt with me and invited me to meet her at Dicks. She was a high school crush. I got Drunk instead. She had two kids. Kids need a safe environment and a mom and dad who love them. I wasn't her guy.
Hogan's Heroes?
and I never did sleep with police officer's wife but she did flirt with me and invited me to meet her at Dicks. She was a high school crush. I got Drunk instead. She had two kids. Kids need a safe environment and a mom and dad who love them. I wasn't her guy.
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11-03-2017, 05:53 PM
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Is it this?
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searching this would be a part of an interview? United? I never applied to United and I have no intention of working there. Half of the management needs to be fired at United in my opinion. Sorry but wrong again. you got the wrong guy.
Pretty sure I have already passed several of these.
Its a stupid test written by idiots.
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searching this would be a part of an interview? United? I never applied to United and I have no intention of working there. Half of the management needs to be fired at United in my opinion. Sorry but wrong again. you got the wrong guy.
Pretty sure I have already passed several of these.
Its a stupid test written by idiots.
11-04-2017, 08:02 AM
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Just do the HIMS evaluation. If you are not a abuser there will be no issue and problem solved. The rest of this thread is silly.
11-04-2017, 09:15 AM
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Here's another scenario - (hypothetical, but very close to an actual case)
A pilot has too much to drink at a Birthday party in a local restaurant, drove there, but had a designated driver.
The whole restaurant takes notice of a commotion in the parking lot. A cop is being abusive to a suspect. The pilot makes a comment, "take it easy" to the cop. The cop approaches the Pilot and subsequently arrests the pilot for DUI since the pilot had his keys in his pocket and the car in close proximity in the parking lot.
The BAC comes back .20 because the pilot just had two shots prior to the test.
The pilot goes to jail, posts bail, has to spend upwards of 5,000 for a DUI lawyer, the charge is plead out to Public Intoxication.
A pilot has too much to drink at a Birthday party in a local restaurant, drove there, but had a designated driver.
The whole restaurant takes notice of a commotion in the parking lot. A cop is being abusive to a suspect. The pilot makes a comment, "take it easy" to the cop. The cop approaches the Pilot and subsequently arrests the pilot for DUI since the pilot had his keys in his pocket and the car in close proximity in the parking lot.
The BAC comes back .20 because the pilot just had two shots prior to the test.
The pilot goes to jail, posts bail, has to spend upwards of 5,000 for a DUI lawyer, the charge is plead out to Public Intoxication.
11-04-2017, 09:19 AM
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Happens all the time. Are you aware of the ongoing protests in this country based on these very events?
This is why laws are amended or abolished. The latest 18v revision is not only unfair, it is unconstitutional.
In the real world, you can fight a DUI in court, you can challenge a BAC, you can get the charge dismissed.
But in the eyes of the FAA, you're guilty until proven innocent just by what a cop says.
This is why laws are amended or abolished. The latest 18v revision is not only unfair, it is unconstitutional.
In the real world, you can fight a DUI in court, you can challenge a BAC, you can get the charge dismissed.
But in the eyes of the FAA, you're guilty until proven innocent just by what a cop says.
11-04-2017, 09:21 AM
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I read it earlier, but I forget whether you said if the officer was terminated for this exact offense/situation. I seemed to recall that you didn't, but I'm not reading the entire thing again. If they weren't terminated for blundering up this DUI arrest, it's irrelevant that they were terminated.
11-04-2017, 09:31 AM
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11-04-2017, 09:32 AM
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Somewhere around here?
This is why laws are amended or abolished. The latest 18v revision is not only unfair, it is unconstitutional.
In the real world, you can fight a DUI in court, you can challenge a BAC, you can get the charge dismissed.
But in the eyes of the FAA, you're guilty until proven innocent just by what a cop says.
In the real world, you can fight a DUI in court, you can challenge a BAC, you can get the charge dismissed.
But in the eyes of the FAA, you're guilty until proven innocent just by what a cop says.
11-04-2017, 09:37 AM
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The basis for denying the privilege must be applied equally and the process for grant or denial cannot be arbitrary.
11-04-2017, 09:46 AM
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Here's another scenario - (hypothetical, but very close to an actual case)
A pilot has too much to drink at a Birthday party in a local restaurant, drove there, but had a designated driver.
The whole restaurant takes notice of a commotion in the parking lot. A cop is being abusive to a suspect. The pilot makes a comment, "take it easy" to the cop. The cop approaches the Pilot and subsequently arrests the pilot for DUI since the pilot had his keys in his pocket and the car in close proximity in the parking lot.
The BAC comes back .20 because the pilot just had two shots prior to the test.
The pilot goes to jail, posts bail, has to spend upwards of 5,000 for a DUI lawyer, the charge is plead out to Public Intoxication.
The pilot has to notify the FAA of the DUI within 60 days as per 61.15. (MVA depending on State).
The pilot is now grounded and has to pay upwards of 15,000 to get his/her medical back through a mandatory HIMS program based on >.20 BAC. At least 2 years of lost income.
The pilot is a brand new CFI with hardly any cash, just starting out, 20-something years old. His/her career is ruined.
Alternative scenario -
Same as above, but the cop makes an arrest for Public intoxication. The court dismisses the charge after an apology since it was a stupid first offense, and the pilot really never did anything wrong except make a statement.
The FAA never knows about it.
A pilot has too much to drink at a Birthday party in a local restaurant, drove there, but had a designated driver.
The whole restaurant takes notice of a commotion in the parking lot. A cop is being abusive to a suspect. The pilot makes a comment, "take it easy" to the cop. The cop approaches the Pilot and subsequently arrests the pilot for DUI since the pilot had his keys in his pocket and the car in close proximity in the parking lot.
The BAC comes back .20 because the pilot just had two shots prior to the test.
The pilot goes to jail, posts bail, has to spend upwards of 5,000 for a DUI lawyer, the charge is plead out to Public Intoxication.
The pilot has to notify the FAA of the DUI within 60 days as per 61.15. (MVA depending on State).
The pilot is now grounded and has to pay upwards of 15,000 to get his/her medical back through a mandatory HIMS program based on >.20 BAC. At least 2 years of lost income.
The pilot is a brand new CFI with hardly any cash, just starting out, 20-something years old. His/her career is ruined.
Alternative scenario -
Same as above, but the cop makes an arrest for Public intoxication. The court dismisses the charge after an apology since it was a stupid first offense, and the pilot really never did anything wrong except make a statement.
The FAA never knows about it.
And we're all good, since the only two pilots who didn't know that, do now.
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