Southern Air Interview
12-09-2015, 11:21 PM
#691
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Joined APC: Sep 2012
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OK, I forgot to ask. I heard a rumor that after working at SAI it will be really hard to get another job and that the airlines will not look at you, in essence you are "blacklisted" if SAI is in the resume.
Has anyone else heard or can confirm something about that, or is this this just BS?
I appreciate the input!
Has anyone else heard or can confirm something about that, or is this this just BS?
I appreciate the input!
12-10-2015, 04:39 AM
#692
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 777, sofa
Posts: 1,183
Use your Threat Error Management skills to determine if the potential rewards outweigh the known risks of taking a job at SAI.
12-10-2015, 01:59 PM
#693
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Position: Santa's Sleight Driver
Posts: 83
No, you will not be blacklisted for your time at SAI.
There had been a greater than average change of being pushed to bend a rule here or there in the not so distant past. The relative inexperience of HQ staff made scheduling or dispatch errors more probable. Which of course could lead to a black mark on your record and an additional hurdle to overcome in getting on with a more reputable airline. Not the same thing at all.
DH and LL are awesome in the CP office. They will do everything they can to support the line pilot. That won't make the bid packet any more attractive or productive. It won't change the company's view of pilots as a easily replaced commodity. It won't make scheduling any more efficient or fair. It won't make the 737 op suck any less, or the 777 op any more family friendly.
SAI can be a reasonable place to work. Pay on the 777 does not suck as bad as an RJ FO. You become adjusted to the schedule in time. 737 CA if you live in or near CVG is a difficult, but doable job.
This is not a good job. It is at best an acceptable job in certain circumstances. It is unlikely to improve very much, ever. Despite impending contract negotiations. Use extreme caution in accepting a position at SAI. Avoid 737 FO like it is a nasty STD. It is not nearly as much fun. RJ Captain, if that is available to you, is a better gig than SAI newhire.
There had been a greater than average change of being pushed to bend a rule here or there in the not so distant past. The relative inexperience of HQ staff made scheduling or dispatch errors more probable. Which of course could lead to a black mark on your record and an additional hurdle to overcome in getting on with a more reputable airline. Not the same thing at all.
DH and LL are awesome in the CP office. They will do everything they can to support the line pilot. That won't make the bid packet any more attractive or productive. It won't change the company's view of pilots as a easily replaced commodity. It won't make scheduling any more efficient or fair. It won't make the 737 op suck any less, or the 777 op any more family friendly.
SAI can be a reasonable place to work. Pay on the 777 does not suck as bad as an RJ FO. You become adjusted to the schedule in time. 737 CA if you live in or near CVG is a difficult, but doable job.
This is not a good job. It is at best an acceptable job in certain circumstances. It is unlikely to improve very much, ever. Despite impending contract negotiations. Use extreme caution in accepting a position at SAI. Avoid 737 FO like it is a nasty STD. It is not nearly as much fun. RJ Captain, if that is available to you, is a better gig than SAI newhire.
Thank you for your input. I would have liked to work at SAI but I just got the email from HR saying I didn't make the cut this time
Maybe that's a good thing though who knows.
Cheers!
12-10-2015, 05:42 PM
#696
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It actually went up lol. For the 777 the FYP is $62.33 w/60 hrs/mo guarantee and the 737 is $61.22 with 61 hrs/mo guarantee... You will never break guarantee in the 737 since they fly 35-45 hrs/mo on average. In the 777 you can make a decent coin (still subpart to other 777 jobs) but at least is better than the RJ guys though!
12-10-2015, 06:30 PM
#698
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12-10-2015, 06:42 PM
#699
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But down to 3 man crews on some routes now with the 4th crewmember deadheading in the back for 50% of the pay. This is the result of the new Flag certification they received. They seem to be hiring quite a bit into the 777 lately but without anymore planes on the table in the near future I think it is just for attrition.. or planning for it anyways. The company offered COLA for the month of January.. Haven't been around here that long but maybe that's normal for this time of year.
12-11-2015, 04:40 AM
#700
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Position: 777, sofa
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Keep in mind there has been little continuity in manpower planning over the last 6 years. They are constantly reinventing the wheel.
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