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Old 07-16-2015, 12:57 PM
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If you also had Comair on your resume you'd be a direct entry manager. Lol
No, that's one thing I don't have. I have Atlantic Coast Airlines instead. RIP
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Old 07-16-2015, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by statepilot
Hello, I live an hour south of CVG. I fly a Navajo for the Commonwealth of Kentucky, make $66,000 and am home with my family every evening. I am 45 years old with about 6200TT, 4300 PIC, 1000 PIC Turbine, 700 Jet, 2700 TT Turbine and am currently acting chief fixed-wing pilot. I may already know the answer, but I thought I would ask if it was worth me pursuing SA. Thank you so much for your time!
You would make roughly the same at SAI as a 737 CA or a 777 FO as you do now. A lot less as a 737 FO. You would be gone about 1/2 the time as a 737 guy and 2/3rds of the time as a 777 guy. You would spend much of that road time in interesting places like Nottingham, Leipzig, Los Angeles, Bahrain, and Hong Kong. On the 737 the only current long stay is Edmonton, Alberta. The 777 is a great plane to fly. It does everything but make your bed for you. The 737 is the world's most popular airliner. The hours are very difficult. All overnight flying on the 737. Mostly 16+ hour duty days with 24 hours off (which is exactly the worst amount of break to have) on the 777.

You have a fixed amount of time on the planet. Do you prefer to spend it with your family, or with a bunch of freight dogs? Some of the dogs are great. Really great. Some not so much. Some really not so much.

SAI would take you in a heartbeat.

Would you take SAI is the real question.
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:43 PM
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You would make roughly the same at SAI as a 737 CA or a 777 FO as you do now. A lot less as a 737 FO. You would be gone about 1/2 the time as a 737 guy and 2/3rds of the time as a 777 guy. You would spend much of that road time in interesting places like Nottingham, Leipzig, Los Angeles, Bahrain, and Hong Kong. On the 737 the only current long stay is Edmonton, Alberta. The 777 is a great plane to fly. It does everything but make your bed for you. The 737 is the world's most popular airliner. The hours are very difficult. All overnight flying on the 737. Mostly 16+ hour duty days with 24 hours off (which is exactly the worst amount of break to have) on the 777.

You have a fixed amount of time on the planet. Do you prefer to spend it with your family, or with a bunch of freight dogs? Some of the dogs are great. Really great. Some not so much. Some really not so much.

SAI would take you in a heartbeat.

Would you take SAI is the real question.
Wow! All really good things to think about for sure. Thanks! I guess my motivation would be this: if I stay and retire from the state, I will be 56 (11 more years). I will still be around the $66k mark, most likely, as I do not see many raises coming down the pike. At that age, I will most likely not be very marketable to many in the industry. So, I see my time to make a switch being right now, if I am going to make one. The one thing about my turbine time is it is old, about 12 years ago being the last I had. It will certainly be a major adjustment for my family. My wife is amazing and knows what aviation can/could be. And, my 6 year old son? Well, not sure how he would do with it. Anyway, thank for spending your time with me! This is certainly something to think about. Safe flying!
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by statepilot
Hello, I live an hour south of CVG. I fly a Navajo for the Commonwealth of Kentucky, make $66,000 and am home with my family every evening. I am 45 years old with about 6200TT, 4300 PIC, 1000 PIC Turbine, 700 Jet, 2700 TT Turbine and am currently acting chief fixed-wing pilot. I may already know the answer, but I thought I would ask if it was worth me pursuing SA. Thank you so much for your time!
Yes i think you would fit in the 737 demographic, just be forewarned about the lifestyle and conditions.
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Old 07-17-2015, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by statepilot
Wow! All really good things to think about for sure. Thanks! I guess my motivation would be this: if I stay and retire from the state, I will be 56 (11 more years). I will still be around the $66k mark, most likely, as I do not see many raises coming down the pike. At that age, I will most likely not be very marketable to many in the industry. So, I see my time to make a switch being right now, if I am going to make one. The one thing about my turbine time is it is old, about 12 years ago being the last I had. It will certainly be a major adjustment for my family. My wife is amazing and knows what aviation can/could be. And, my 6 year old son? Well, not sure how he would do with it. Anyway, thank for spending your time with me! This is certainly something to think about. Safe flying!
If you get the 737 it will be a $45k a year job. You will not upgrade until you have:
"...either 2500 TT and 1000 PIC in "Large Group II Transport Category aircraft (turbojets above 41,000 lb), or 1500 SIC in Large Group II Transport Category aircraft (turbojets above 41,000 lb) and 500 hours company time."

The Guppy guys log about 500 hours a year, so you are looking at a two year upgrade to get back to what you are making now. Top out would be about $150k after 12 years. No retirement. No 401k match. Medical insurance is very expensive. And the schedules never get any better. Always 20 days on duty. Always overnight freight. And the constant threat that DHL will pull the rug out from under us and take their airplanes(all 'our' aircraft are owned by DHL) and give them to someone else to fly.

Southern is not the place most guys want to be. It works for some people. But that is the exception, not the rule.

Good luck!
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Launch an exciting career with Southern Air and work with some of aviation’s top talent. A premiere air cargo provider, we are committed to delivering performance excellence to customers worldwide and making a positive, global impact through our innovative air freight services. We are always looking for new and dynamic professionals to join the Southern Air team. From pilots and maintenance representatives, to crew resources, sales and administrative offices (such as Human Resources, Information Technology and Finance), we are a multi-faceted operation that requires a range of unique and diverse skill sets. Southern Air is an Equal Opportunity Employer dedicated to diversity
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Old 07-19-2015, 02:45 PM
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I've been out of flying for a bit, I have all the requirements for the majors and more. So far no calls other than regionals and Southern. I have class dates for 3 regionals in August and a 737 class date of 10 Aug at Southern.
Any insight or thoughts would help.

Thanks!
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I've been out of flying for a bit, I have all the requirements for the majors and more. So far no calls other than regionals and Southern. I have class dates for 3 regionals in August and a 737 class date of 10 Aug at Southern.
Any insight or thoughts would help.

Thanks!


What regionals and where do you live?
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Old 07-19-2015, 02:55 PM
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if you live near CVG... go to Southern ... get some time... get out...

otherwise go to the regional that has a crew base where you live or very near where you live... or move...
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Old 07-19-2015, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Jet
What regionals and where do you live?
Endeavor. republic and TSA. I live in KC.
Endeavor would be good for pay!
Republic would be good for MCI base!
TSA would be good for quick upgrade.
I already have a 737 type.
Possibility of a quick upgrade at Southern as I meet their requirements as well.
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