robthree

Would you say the company's unilateral reinterpretation of TEP would qualify as abuse?

What about reinterpreting the commuter clause to only respect the last leg of the commute? So if you get stuck in Chicago, you're not penalized, but if you can't even get there you've got a nice disciplinary letter in your file, suitable for framing.

How about when we were recalled they couldn't get our pay right for three months? How about they couldn't get our benefits to kick in the same month we started paying for them? How about this year's open enrollment where they farmed us out to a third party website that tried to up sell us overpriced junk every step of the way? How about how our benefits keep getting more expensive, and coverage keeps getting less comprehensive? How about that invitation to the holiday party. That we didn't get?

How about taking all that money our bankruptcy induced contract saved them and buying another airline with it?

How about penny-ante stuff like we don't get points or breakfast in CVG anymore? How about we can't upgrade to an aisle or economy plus anymore, never mind business?

How about the 121.521/.523 situation? Does that count as abuse?

How about the entire 737 LOA that was sold as the 'only way' to save the airline? Oh, but a majority voted yes, so its no longer abusive?

Don is great. The Crew Schedulers are much better, and so is travel. Dispatch is pretty good. Although they did send out the previous day's flight plan to a crew last week.

The fact that we are still working under the basic SACG agreement from ten years ago IS abuse. The threats they used to get it renewed were abusive. Every day, every flight, every deadhead, every sit in a hotel, is abuse.

Would you concede ANY of these points, or are you really and truly incapable of seeing anything from another persons perspective at all?

robthree

That depends very much on your benefits package. You'll gross about $60 an hour as FO on either plane, and $105 as Guppy Captain. I made $75 an hour and my W-2 wages were just shy of $64000. Obviously, per diem and medical insurance don't go into that number, and I did not time out. Per diem will be pretty low on the Guppy, but medical insurance will be constant regardless of your seat or seniority.

If you're insuring your family, as a WAG call it $1000 net base pay per paycheck, plus over time & per diem on the 777... $4000?
On the 737 $1800 per check plus negligible per diem... $3800?
YMMV

Boris Badenov

Thanks for that, rob. I would most likely just be insuring myself.

robthree

New Boeing CBTs worked on my new Macbook Air running Yosemite 10.10.x out of the box. No issues at all.

Birdstrikes

Welcome aboard. I'll look forward to seeing you on the line.

Birdstrikes

Sure, I agree with you that many of those things suck? Abuse? Some of it we did ourselves because we did not demand clear and concise language in the B737 LOA.

HR issues screw everyone not just the pilots. Even themselves. I'm sorry those things happened to you. There is no excuse for those issues.

Taking the profits earned through the hard work and dedication of all of the SAI employees to buy another certificate? Yup, that is a kick in the jimmy and not just for the pilots.

.521/523 is a FAA Supplemental problem. Those rules are way outdated. Most pilot groups are smart enough to have a contract that offers more protection. But like you said, we are under the SACG CBA that was written when we never/rarely flew heavy crews. Nobody could have imagined then we'd be doing the type of flying we are now.

The former MEC Chairman was gullible and sold the 737 LOA to the group under the guise of saving jobs. The majority voted it in. Guess what? We are stuck with it because WE voted for it.

The rest? Pretty minor stuff that most other airlines don't give their crews either. Atlas sets an example of how it should be in the Supplemental world. Business Class is in their CBA. The VP of Flight Ops that conceded that to Atlas was our VP of Ops during contract negotiations (M. Hartley). He was quoted as saying he would never concede that again = we did not get it. Not for lack of trying. Neff canned him after the CBA was signed for negotiating what we currently have.

As far as 4 737 Checkairmen quitting on the same day. Most FO's would be psyched. That is 4 positions that you could potentially fill. What is stopping you?

Those guys were recruited at 4th year pay at Worldwide with home basing, and the promise of being B747-400 LCA's if/when Jim adds those airplanes. Some guys like the challenge and excitement of that type flying. I think those guys did. Heck...I even miss it on occasion...rare occasion. Lol. You should be happy pilots senior to you left.

Rob, what are YOU doing to help improve things at SAI? Become a Union Steward. It will not take much of your time and you can help all of us improve our situation.

Diesel8

Thanks Rob, too tired to respond, just got in after a flight. You did a much better job of it than I could.

Don't forget the musical chairs dirtbag hotels, taking breakfasts away, taking away the $1200.00 Christmas bonus, and all the other miscellaneous stabs in the eye. All that's just the tip of the iceberg. What we don't see is all the Preparation H stuff that their doing to us behind our back(sides) in good 'ol KY.

Even more interesting recent dispatch happenings, especially when your dealing with revolving door dispatchers that no nothing about o'seas ops.

News from mechanics on the ever rolling forward arrival of the 5th 777F:

Maybe, and that's a big maybe, the end of the year. Routing from DHL (is there a need?), has not been finalized. The bird is from LAN and has yet to go through bridge inspections, which would take at least over a month. I suspicion that it is still being operated by LAN but could not confirm that. So much for June. It's just a big blue and white carrot on the end of a stick!

Strikes - Go Team Southern! Rah! Rah! Go...Team! Yay!



Stay safe!

METO Guido

Sub-lease. Either N772LA or N774LA. Rumored to have more than one suitor.

robthree

I have TWO unconfirmed straight scoops to share on the mythical 5th 777.

#1 From a DHL bigwig riding to CVG. #5 is a sure thing: will fly Shenzhen-Leipzig-East Midlands. There is no #6 planned for Southern.

#2 From MX Grand Poohbah: 777 #5 is "in the hopper". Can you be any more specific when we will see it? "Its in the hopper".


My take: I will hold 777 Captain before it arrives.

Natca

Chief pilot is saying all 777 spots have been filled for the year with no forecast hiring on type after the late June class. FYI for all those coming in trying to roll the dice.