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Old 05-06-2015, 06:53 AM
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Birdstrikes, awesome post. Thanks for the info... Do you, or anyone else on the Triple, know if the CBTs work on Mac? Or should I try and dig up an old Laptop for training
Hey. I don't know if you already got the answer to this or not. I just finished my recurrent CBTs on my iPad Mini. You need to download and use the Puffin browser. Everything loaded well and worked without a hitch, up until the final test which would not load on my iPad for some reason. I did that test on a PC laptop. I hope this helps.
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Old 05-06-2015, 08:19 AM
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The most junior B737 captains just awarded were hired in November/December of 2014. One was a B737 FO. The other was a B777 FO for those interested in quick upgrades.
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Anyone care to speculate as to a realistic monthly net for a 1st year 777 F/O? How about an as-soon-as-seniority-will-hold-it 737 C/A?

Thanks.
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:53 AM
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You will require 3 letters for upgrade, so however long that takes. The other thing is how many people senior to you will upgrade before you. Then people transitioning off the 777 FO position to 737 CA. Could be short, could be long. Just call it indeterminate.

That is if the company survives.

Word is that the management's punishment of the crews for perceived wrong doing is only going to get worse.

Why not go to a major, their hiring like crazy.
Diesel8, what do you mean by "management's punishment of the crews for perceived wrong doing"? Would you be able to elaborate about that?
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Boris Badenov
Anyone care to speculate as to a realistic monthly net for a 1st year 777 F/O? How about an as-soon-as-seniority-will-hold-it 737 C/A?

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Boris, I think that info was posted a while back earlier in the thread.
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdstrikes
The most junior B737 captains just awarded were hired in November/December of 2014. One was a B737 FO. The other was a B777 FO for those interested in quick upgrades.
So... direct entry B737 captains just around the corner then?
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Boris Badenov
Anyone care to speculate as to a realistic monthly net for a 1st year 777 F/O?
Easy. Multiply your hourly rate x 1000 (the maximum number of annual hours allowed by law), then add 30%. That ought to cover the extra pay you'll get for working your days off.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiki
Diesel8, what do you mean by "management's punishment of the crews for perceived wrong doing"? Would you be able to elaborate about that?

I have yet to see anybody post anything specific about how Southern has abused them recently. Yes...the pay sucks!!! But the pilots agreed to a contract extension. Until that gets renegotiated, we are stuck. Jumpseating to CVG for the B737 will probably be difficult if you need multiple legs, or your home airport is mostly served by AA, DL, or by Southwest that we don't have agreements with. But anybody that bids the B737 should already know what they are facing.

I can cite numerous examples earlier in SAI's history and while flying a different aircraft about how the staff in the office (especially in the old office) failed to do their jobs and made my job a PITA, blamed me or abused me. That was then....this is now!

If you have an example of how the company has abused you over the last 12 months post it.....this is the info potential new hires need. Sorry...flying your two lap around the planet line and then being used on you R days does not count! Lol. Being extended "involuntarily" on your days off is a good example. Has that happened to any of B737/777 pilots lately? By the way potential applicants....uncovered trips are usually posted in Open Time and they mostly get covered by volunteer. However, like almost any airline Scheduling is not going to let a trip cancel for lack of crews.

Sitting around the cafeteria tables in CVG waiting for the sort sucks! But it sucks just the same for FDX and UPS. They just get paid better but ***** about it just as much. That is the nature of night hub turns. So what else sucks?

So let's hear it. Bring on real life examples of how you have been wronged.

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Old 05-06-2015, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdstrikes
I have yet to see anybody post anything specific about how Southern has abused them recently. Yes...the pay sucks!!! But the pilots agreed to a contract extension. Until that gets renegotiated, we are stuck. Jumpseating to CVG for the B737 will probably be difficult if you need multiple legs, or your home airport is mostly served by AA, DL, or by Southwest that we don't have agreements with. But anybody that bids the B737 should already know what they are facing.

I can cite numerous examples earlier in SAI's history and while flying a different aircraft about how the staff in the office (especially in the old office) failed to do their jobs and made my job a PITA, blamed me or abused me. That was then....this is now!

If you have an example of how the company has abused you over the last 12 months post it.....this is the info potential new hires need. Sorry...flying your two lap around the planet line and then being used on you R days does not count! Lol. Being extended "involuntarily" on your days off is a good example. Has that happened to any of B737/777 pilots lately? By the way potential applicants....uncovered trips are usually posted in Open Time and they mostly get covered by volunteer. However, like almost any airline Scheduling is not going to let a trip cancel for lack of crews.

Sitting around the cafeteria tables in CVG waiting for the sort sucks! But it sucks just the same for FDX and UPS. They just get paid better but ***** about it just as much. That is the nature of night hub turns. So what else sucks?

So let's hear it. Bring on real life examples of how you have been wronged.
To anybody interviewing I recommend coming here everyone's been very nice so far good traning . But that's ones opinion I'm just one of the few who knew what it was before I came here had a lot of friends who worked here, you work a lot and often. Don't misunderstand me I would like better working conditions, doesn't everyone?I will do what I can to help that.
My 2 cents for what its worth, I'm not jadded yet but I'm sure everyone thinks that will change.
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Old 05-06-2015, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiki
Diesel8, what do you mean by "management's punishment of the crews for perceived wrong doing"? Would you be able to elaborate about that?
Not sure if this is what he meant, but when four 737 check airmen quit on the same day to go fly for the Neffs, the reaction was essentially "How dare they do that to us!" No self reflection, No realization that 737 CA at Southern is a far worse job than flying old worn out equipment without visible means of support in the wildest reaches of Africa. It was all the crew's fault for quitting. SAI did nothing to deserve being placed in the bind of not having enough crews on hand to cover their contracted flying. Like, I don't know, having schedules that don't make people want to quit and take up the 2nd worst kind of flying in the world.
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