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Old 06-06-2014, 06:11 AM
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I love how so many here blame the union when most don't even know the contract let alone follow it.
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Old 06-06-2014, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
It is not just the Exco, it is the every single pilot in the pilot group...it is me...it is you.

We are going to have to change by getting involved and preparing for the fight ahead. Simply paying dues is not enough.
Right on. And I agree. Better than some but a far cry from many others. There's a lot to like about working here, but plenty that can be better.

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Old 06-06-2014, 09:38 AM
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Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings (AAWW) today announced the placement of additional Boeing 747-400 Freighter ACMI services for DHL Express, the world's leading international express shipping company.

ACMI services under the new agreement will provide additional intercontinental capacity for DHL Express from Asia commencing in mid-June. At that time, Atlas will operate a total of four 747-8Fs and six 747-400Fs in ACMI service on behalf of DHL. Atlas will also continue to operate seven Boeing 767 Freighters in CMI service for DHL.

"We are delighted to expand our long-standing relationship with DHL and to support the strong growth of its global network operations," said William J. Flynn, President and Chief Executive Officer, Atlas Air Worldwide.
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Old 06-06-2014, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Absolutely. For everyone that says the union doesn't do enough, YOU are the union. YOU should be taking a stand every time the company tries to circumvent the contract. Calling the union should be the next step after you've fought the good fight. Too many think that posting on the union web board (instead of actually calling/emailing a Steward) will magically get things fixed. Nope. To win this fight, we all have to do our part.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!!
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Old 06-06-2014, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxcackel
I love how so many here blame the union when most don't even know the contract let alone follow it.
Yep!

I'm a P2P guy who tries to know the CBA cold and, since I wear the IBT P2P lanyard, tries to set a good example. While I'm certainly no expert, I'm really appalled at the lack of CBA knowledge of guys who've been here years longer than I have.

Worse yet, we have plenty of guys who know the CBA, but make side deals anyway. Helps nobody.
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Old 06-07-2014, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by easyflying
Sounds like it's time for a change. Out with the old exco and put in new blood.
This will be the THE key first step and very telling of our future.

If we allow ANY 3/4 digit ID numbers (original Atlas) on the next EXCO it will lead to the same road of mediocrity this place has been on for 20 years. The original Polar pilots + those hired in the last 5 years represent a controlling voting body. If we do not stand up and use it we will end up with the same (super senior, check airman) self serving ideology that exist now. How would you feel about 24+ year pay scales? Just another way to trow all the money to the top of the list. The conversation is already happening in those circles.

As for the upcoming political season, the EXCO voting, the present one is already trying to drive the campaigning to not start until as late and as close to the vote as possible. I think this one is going to get ugly.
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Old 06-07-2014, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by whale driver
if we allow any 3/4 digit id numbers (original atlas) on the next exco it will lead to the same road of mediocrity this place has been on for 20 years.
+1

I'll be voting for someone with six digits.......it should begin with a 4.
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Old 06-07-2014, 06:39 AM
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Old 06-07-2014, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Whale Driver
If we allow ANY 3/4 digit ID numbers (original Atlas) on the next EXCO it will lead to the same road of mediocrity this place has been on for 20 years. The original Polar pilots + those hired in the last 5 years represent a controlling voting body. If we do not stand up and use it we will end up with the same (super senior, check airman) self serving ideology that exist now.

FOs are the majority of the seniority list. Why not elect one as ExCo chairman? I sure hope some run.
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Old 06-07-2014, 09:29 AM
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I'd vote for you captainv!
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