Atlas Air Hiring
#8553
Whale whisperer
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Position: 744 Capt
Posts: 170
Anybody have any insight on what kind of movement they think we will have amongst the bases with the opening of the base at Paine Field? I wanna say its 15 CA and 20 FOs... Also, the announcement didn't address if other bases would shrink or if this is essentially an expansion. Bid closes on 31st with results due out by 15 June from what I remember. Any thoughts on this?
#8554
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: Chief Pilot
Posts: 47
Atlas Air Hiring
Yea I realize that but wouldn't mind it for a couple years as long as can eventually be ANC based. Hopefully the random net that HR casts will get me with no time in anything heavier then 18000lbs and barely meeting the turbine requirements
#8555
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2008
Posts: 617
For those hopeful to get this job I think it's important to know about the pool situation. They score applicants and then take from the top. I have been in the pool for 4 months with no word. 3 classes have run in that time and many folks from my interview dates were called. I also recently found out they conducted more interviews and some folks from those have been given class dates. I was frustrated until I found out there are still people in the pool that have been there almost a year. We were told at the interview they would be emptying the pool prior to more interviews but that didn't happen. I scored well on my written and felt it was the best I've ever done in an interview, not sure where I didn't score well... I don't mean to be negative here, I'm still excited for the opportunity for a class at some point but I think it's important people are aware this is how it works. It's unfortunate because it often puts a bit of a bad taste in peoples mouths before they ever show up for class. Hopefully this is something they'll consider changing in the future.
#8556
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: B744 FO
Posts: 375
In the summer, ANC locals like to get home now and again to enjoy the short summer, so the number of multiple trips (as opposed to 17-days straight) to accomodate them seemed to be higher then...
On another note, I saw today that the average engineer at Google makes $128000/year & home every night. When I was in (aerospace industry)engineering, and major airline widebody FO made twice my salary....
On another note, I saw today that the average engineer at Google makes $128000/year & home every night. When I was in (aerospace industry)engineering, and major airline widebody FO made twice my salary....
#8557
For those hopeful to get this job I think it's important to know about the pool situation. They score applicants and then take from the top. I have been in the pool for 4 months with no word. 3 classes have run in that time and many folks from my interview dates were called. I also recently found out they conducted more interviews and some folks from those have been given class dates. I was frustrated until I found out there are still people in the pool that have been there almost a year. We were told at the interview they would be emptying the pool prior to more interviews but that didn't happen. I scored well on my written and felt it was the best I've ever done in an interview, not sure where I didn't score well... I don't mean to be negative here, I'm still excited for the opportunity for a class at some point but I think it's important people are aware this is how it works. It's unfortunate because it often puts a bit of a bad taste in peoples mouths before they ever show up for class. Hopefully this is something they'll consider changing in the future.
#8558
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2008
Posts: 617
Almost 1 year 2 months in the pool. I didn't score well on the test either. The moral of the story is that you should cheat. If you take it honestly and score a respectable 70% you will be at the bottom of the list. People i spoke to said they had 3 or 4 other people google answers while they did the test on line. Scoring 90-98%.
#8559
For those hopeful to get this job I think it's important to know about the pool situation. They score applicants and then take from the top. I have been in the pool for 4 months with no word. 3 classes have run in that time and many folks from my interview dates were called. I also recently found out they conducted more interviews and some folks from those have been given class dates. I was frustrated until I found out there are still people in the pool that have been there almost a year. We were told at the interview they would be emptying the pool prior to more interviews but that didn't happen. I scored well on my written and felt it was the best I've ever done in an interview, not sure where I didn't score well... I don't mean to be negative here, I'm still excited for the opportunity for a class at some point but I think it's important people are aware this is how it works. It's unfortunate because it often puts a bit of a bad taste in peoples mouths before they ever show up for class. Hopefully this is something they'll consider changing in the future.
#8560
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 112
Everyone should take heed what people are saying on this board lately. 744 Driver is correct in that the tone from the company has changed in the last year. Scheduling is on full attack of the contract, your quality of life and your paycheck. The travel department wants more of your days off at home (pre rest and backup flights) and on the road by deadheading you way out of the way on company aircraft or two leg commercial trips with long airport sits in the middle. And ridiculous taxi rides across Europe, 7hrs. Hotels are getting cheaper and not contractual in several cities. Catering has gone down hill fast, we use to get business class meals but now they are contracting for the cheapest thing they can get the caterers to give us.
Now the new hires (I have two friends that got on last year) are all based in ANC. Three to four years ago it was mostly 30 day lines with most of those 15-17 days on in a row with only a few split trips. You could piece these together to get nice stretches of days off. Now they build 60-70% as 60 day lines that require you to travel to work several times a month on days off and you can never have days off over the end/beginning of every other month. These type of trips makes it rough getting back and forth to ANC and the IMPUTED INCOME for the new hires has been horrendous.
Couple other contract problems are with Vacation and sick time. If you are junior you probably wont be able to conflict bid your vacation so your vacation is on normal days off so it becomes bonus pay not vacation days. And sick days are only credited if you are below guarantee of 62hrs so if you are on a 73 hour month it cost you 11hrs or $1000.00 dollars or more to call in sick!
Example 50hr month call in sick=pull days out of sick bank to bring you to 62 hrs.
73hr month call in sick= no days removed from sick bank and NO CREDIT until you get down to 62hrs
I for one am concerned about why this is happening. Is it cost controlling for the changing cargo industry or is it an early attempt to make us buy things back in contract negotiations? but that is two years out.
Is this still better than a regional? Yes, I think so but i think now I would stay at the regional's until the majors called.
I have stopped recommending my friends to come to Atlas.
Now the new hires (I have two friends that got on last year) are all based in ANC. Three to four years ago it was mostly 30 day lines with most of those 15-17 days on in a row with only a few split trips. You could piece these together to get nice stretches of days off. Now they build 60-70% as 60 day lines that require you to travel to work several times a month on days off and you can never have days off over the end/beginning of every other month. These type of trips makes it rough getting back and forth to ANC and the IMPUTED INCOME for the new hires has been horrendous.
Couple other contract problems are with Vacation and sick time. If you are junior you probably wont be able to conflict bid your vacation so your vacation is on normal days off so it becomes bonus pay not vacation days. And sick days are only credited if you are below guarantee of 62hrs so if you are on a 73 hour month it cost you 11hrs or $1000.00 dollars or more to call in sick!
Example 50hr month call in sick=pull days out of sick bank to bring you to 62 hrs.
73hr month call in sick= no days removed from sick bank and NO CREDIT until you get down to 62hrs
I for one am concerned about why this is happening. Is it cost controlling for the changing cargo industry or is it an early attempt to make us buy things back in contract negotiations? but that is two years out.
Is this still better than a regional? Yes, I think so but i think now I would stay at the regional's until the majors called.
I have stopped recommending my friends to come to Atlas.
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