Atlas Air Hiring
05-06-2014, 10:49 PM
#8411
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2007
Position: 320 Captain
Posts: 335
Children of the Train (reference to children of the corn -- not me scolding you as a child). In the back of my mind I keep hearing those voices in my head (yes, there are a lot of them) of cheaper fairs than taking a business class ticket according to the CBA. I certainly hope that's not the case.
Although I know part of this job is adventure and fun exploring, may I caution you not to give up your hard fought for "is what it is" CBA business class seats regardless of the type of transportation used. If you're getting the business or first on the train enjoy it. If you're not, well, . . . I won't waste my time writing how screwed up that is.
I do, however, understand taking a train if business class is sold out and there's no other alternative.
How does this pertain to a hiring thread you might ask? Well, it's time we start policing our own and negotiations will be here before you know it. I would like to hope that anyone that joins our group understands that when you give up a benefit found in the CBA for your own convenience it gives data to management that people really don't need what we have (different layover hotels for longer times, business class seats, etc.).
Enough said, off the soap box, good luck in getting the class date.
Cheers!
Although I know part of this job is adventure and fun exploring, may I caution you not to give up your hard fought for "is what it is" CBA business class seats regardless of the type of transportation used. If you're getting the business or first on the train enjoy it. If you're not, well, . . . I won't waste my time writing how screwed up that is.
I do, however, understand taking a train if business class is sold out and there's no other alternative.
How does this pertain to a hiring thread you might ask? Well, it's time we start policing our own and negotiations will be here before you know it. I would like to hope that anyone that joins our group understands that when you give up a benefit found in the CBA for your own convenience it gives data to management that people really don't need what we have (different layover hotels for longer times, business class seats, etc.).
Enough said, off the soap box, good luck in getting the class date.
Cheers!
05-07-2014, 12:11 AM
#8412
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 117
Congrats to those getting hired BUT.........!
...TO make this a better place to work! You'll learn all about this once you are here, Welcome! All the RJ guys understand what its like to fight tooth and nail, as for prior Mil guys which i'm also cut from that cloth as well better not sit and expect to be spoon fed a better contract! Once again welcome aboard!
05-07-2014, 06:56 AM
#8413
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: B744/8 CA at Atlas
Posts: 83
Interesting given that of the 12 guys interviewed yesterday 8 were World, 1 NAA, and then I think 1 Air Force, 1 Corporate and 1 RJ.
05-07-2014, 07:26 AM
#8414
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 116
Children of the Train (reference to children of the corn -- not me scolding you as a child). In the back of my mind I keep hearing those voices in my head (yes, there are a lot of them) of cheaper fairs than taking a business class ticket according to the CBA. I certainly hope that's not the case.
Although I know part of this job is adventure and fun exploring, may I caution you not to give up your hard fought for "is what it is" CBA business class seats regardless of the type of transportation used. If you're getting the business or first on the train enjoy it. If you're not, well, . . . I won't waste my time writing how screwed up that is.
I do, however, understand taking a train if business class is sold out and there's no other alternative.
How does this pertain to a hiring thread you might ask? Well, it's time we start policing our own and negotiations will be here before you know it. I would like to hope that anyone that joins our group understands that when you give up a benefit found in the CBA for your own convenience it gives data to management that people really don't need what we have (different layover hotels for longer times, business class seats, etc.).
Enough said, off the soap box, good luck in getting the class date.
Cheers!
Although I know part of this job is adventure and fun exploring, may I caution you not to give up your hard fought for "is what it is" CBA business class seats regardless of the type of transportation used. If you're getting the business or first on the train enjoy it. If you're not, well, . . . I won't waste my time writing how screwed up that is.
I do, however, understand taking a train if business class is sold out and there's no other alternative.
How does this pertain to a hiring thread you might ask? Well, it's time we start policing our own and negotiations will be here before you know it. I would like to hope that anyone that joins our group understands that when you give up a benefit found in the CBA for your own convenience it gives data to management that people really don't need what we have (different layover hotels for longer times, business class seats, etc.).
Enough said, off the soap box, good luck in getting the class date.
Cheers!
Amen! And to add, the company will try to put you in a non-downtown hotel routinely (for layovers >18 hrs, you are due a downtown hotel IAW the CBA). Call travel and make them fix it!
Good luck to all those applying, learn the airplane AND the CBA, or else you will be taken advantage of.
05-07-2014, 02:25 PM
#8415
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 249
Yes, for those thinking of coming here take notice. Lately the company has been running like a crappy regional with these contract issues. They pretty much knowingly violate the contract until you do their job and correct them. Duty day over 16 hours domestic? Contract says you get first class ticket. Don't worry, there is a 100% chance that they will buy you coach and you'll have to correct them. This is life lately at this place. You'll have to do all that extra stuff correcting them while they guilt trip you for following the contract.
05-07-2014, 03:42 PM
#8416
Tuk er jerbs!
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: B747 Left
Posts: 1,342
Yes, for those thinking of coming here take notice. Lately the company has been running like a crappy regional with these contract issues. They pretty much knowingly violate the contract until you do their job and correct them. Duty day over 16 hours domestic? Contract says you get first class ticket. Don't worry, there is a 100% chance that they will buy you coach and you'll have to correct them. This is life lately at this place. You'll have to do all that extra stuff correcting them while they guilt trip you for following the contract.
Oookay. Hopefully a steward can sort 'em out. Again.
I'll add that I don't think any of this is malicious; my former company was known to be outright malicious with contractual violations, requiring the union to drag them to grievance and arbitration hearings over every little thing. I simply think it's ignorance on the part of the people in scheduling and travel. They're just not standardized. I'd put money on the fact that I'll call back after the shift change and get a completely different answer.
05-07-2014, 04:40 PM
#8417
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 767
Posts: 337
Children of the Train (reference to children of the corn -- not me scolding you as a child). In the back of my mind I keep hearing those voices in my head (yes, there are a lot of them) of cheaper fairs than taking a business class ticket according to the CBA. I certainly hope that's not the case.
Although I know part of this job is adventure and fun exploring, may I caution you not to give up your hard fought for "is what it is" CBA business class seats regardless of the type of transportation used. If you're getting the business or first on the train enjoy it. If you're not, well, . . . I won't waste my time writing how screwed up that is.
I do, however, understand taking a train if business class is sold out and there's no other alternative.
How does this pertain to a hiring thread you might ask? Well, it's time we start policing our own and negotiations will be here before you know it. I would like to hope that anyone that joins our group understands that when you give up a benefit found in the CBA for your own convenience it gives data to management that people really don't need what we have (different layover hotels for longer times, business class seats, etc.).
Enough said, off the soap box, good luck in getting the class date.
Cheers!
Although I know part of this job is adventure and fun exploring, may I caution you not to give up your hard fought for "is what it is" CBA business class seats regardless of the type of transportation used. If you're getting the business or first on the train enjoy it. If you're not, well, . . . I won't waste my time writing how screwed up that is.
I do, however, understand taking a train if business class is sold out and there's no other alternative.
How does this pertain to a hiring thread you might ask? Well, it's time we start policing our own and negotiations will be here before you know it. I would like to hope that anyone that joins our group understands that when you give up a benefit found in the CBA for your own convenience it gives data to management that people really don't need what we have (different layover hotels for longer times, business class seats, etc.).
Enough said, off the soap box, good luck in getting the class date.
Cheers!
Right on dog!
05-07-2014, 08:03 PM
#8418
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 747RJ
Posts: 441
Children of the Train (reference to children of the corn -- not me scolding you as a child). In the back of my mind I keep hearing those voices in my head (yes, there are a lot of them) of cheaper fairs than taking a business class ticket according to the CBA. I certainly hope that's not the case.
Although I know part of this job is adventure and fun exploring, may I caution you not to give up your hard fought for "is what it is" CBA business class seats regardless of the type of transportation used. If you're getting the business or first on the train enjoy it. If you're not, well, . . . I won't waste my time writing how screwed up that is.
I do, however, understand taking a train if business class is sold out and there's no other alternative.
How does this pertain to a hiring thread you might ask? Well, it's time we start policing our own and negotiations will be here before you know it. I would like to hope that anyone that joins our group understands that when you give up a benefit found in the CBA for your own convenience it gives data to management that people really don't need what we have (different layover hotels for longer times, business class seats, etc.).
Enough said, off the soap box, good luck in getting the class date.
Cheers!
Although I know part of this job is adventure and fun exploring, may I caution you not to give up your hard fought for "is what it is" CBA business class seats regardless of the type of transportation used. If you're getting the business or first on the train enjoy it. If you're not, well, . . . I won't waste my time writing how screwed up that is.
I do, however, understand taking a train if business class is sold out and there's no other alternative.
How does this pertain to a hiring thread you might ask? Well, it's time we start policing our own and negotiations will be here before you know it. I would like to hope that anyone that joins our group understands that when you give up a benefit found in the CBA for your own convenience it gives data to management that people really don't need what we have (different layover hotels for longer times, business class seats, etc.).
Enough said, off the soap box, good luck in getting the class date.
Cheers!
05-08-2014, 01:39 AM
#8419
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Capt
Posts: 3,215
I don't think it is realistic to compare Atlas to a crappy regional. I normally call travel, and tell them the flight(s) I want...I would say about 80% of the time they give me that itinerary. When I was at a regional I don't recall them ever buying me a ticket to get to the start of my trip.
I have had problems with travel, and have had to talk to them to get it straightened out...but it was straightened out in the end. I have had travel be very flexible and give me what I want, even though it was "non-standard".
Atlas definitely has room for improvement, but I am 99% sure that a "typical" regional pilot, that is interested in Atlas, will find that Atlas is a big improvement.
God Bless, and namaste
I have had problems with travel, and have had to talk to them to get it straightened out...but it was straightened out in the end. I have had travel be very flexible and give me what I want, even though it was "non-standard".
Atlas definitely has room for improvement, but I am 99% sure that a "typical" regional pilot, that is interested in Atlas, will find that Atlas is a big improvement.
God Bless, and namaste
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