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Old 02-09-2014, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KYTBRD
Once you become a captain you are by default "the expert on the crew", an instructor.
You didn't offend me, don't worry. But, I will say with regard to the above, that depends on the captain. I treat the captain just like I would any other line pilot; I don't expect these guys/gals to teach unless they're instructors (and we do have plenty of FO instructors here) or check airmen. I just show up to the jet, do my work safely, cash my checks, and go home; I don't expect anything more out of my coworkers, either.

What we really don't want, in the era of modern CRM, are a bunch of guys who treat the cockpit as a pecking order based on the number of stripes on their shoulders. It creates a rift in the cockpit that can lead to one guy screwing things up while the other guy watches and doesn't want to speak up due to a difference in rank.

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Old 02-10-2014, 09:20 AM
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Ok...soooo back to hiring?!?!?
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:03 AM
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What are Recency of Experience requirements, if specific, and are they mandatory???? Plenty of 121 Boeing experience just not current.
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 727574drvr
What are Recency of Experience requirements, if specific, and are they mandatory???? Plenty of 121 Boeing experience just not current.
Sorry for the vague/non-specific answer. But I'd venture to guess that it's a factor on the initial screen/sort/rank/rack and stack. It's on the PAQ form, or at least WAS.

"Back in the day", and way before this hiring spree at 5Y, there were pilots hired that hadn't flown in a long time. But granted, many of them were military, retired, and rode out the last years of their mil careers at non flying/staff jobs. But we're in a different era now, and they have THOUSANDS of resumes to choose from.

And keep in mind, there's PLENTY of them with 121/ACMI/Boeing/heavy experience that are current. But keep applying, ya never know.
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:46 AM
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I did the PAQ last month, but I don't remember seeing it this time, as it definetly WAS in the past. I probably have some friends or former collegues there, yet do not know if they are there... Oh well, I applied anyways; 10,000 hrs 121 Boeing experience w/8000 PIC Boeing and they still don't recognize you as a pilot; go figure huh???

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Old 02-10-2014, 01:54 PM
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Hello guys,
Any updates on pool size ( how many candidates are in the pool waiting? )
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 727574drvr
What are Recency of Experience requirements, if specific, and are they mandatory???? Plenty of 121 Boeing experience just not current.
Do you meet the minimums for applying? If yes, that's all you need. We have one in class right now that had not flown for over a year, non-military.

Someone pulled out of the interview on the 11th (unknown reason) leaving a spot open. The next applicant was called and after being offered that open interview spot was told that this would be the last spot for the month. Seems Feb 11-13 are the only interview dates scheduled in the near future... as of today, could change tomorrow.
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Old 02-10-2014, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuninonis66
Ok...soooo back to hiring?!?!?
This is very applicable if you're hired.
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Old 02-10-2014, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
You didn't offend me, don't worry. But, I will say with regard to the above, that depends on the captain. I treat the captain just like I would any other line pilot; I don't expect these guys/gals to teach unless they're instructors (and we do have plenty of FO instructors here) or check airmen. I just show up to the jet, do my work safely, cash my checks, and go home; I don't expect anything more out of my coworkers, either.

What we really don't want, in the era of modern CRM, are a bunch of guys who treat the cockpit as a pecking order based on the number of stripes on their shoulders. It creates a rift in the cockpit that can lead to one guy screwing things up while the other guy watches and doesn't want to speak up due to a difference in rank.

JMHO.
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Good advice for some that you need two and sometimes more to do what we do here at atlas.
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Old 02-10-2014, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by worldfr8dog
Do you meet the minimums for applying? If yes, that's all you need. We have one in class right now that had not flown for over a year, non-military.

Someone pulled out of the interview on the 11th (unknown reason) leaving a spot open. The next applicant was called and after being offered that open interview spot was told that this would be the last spot for the month. Seems Feb 11-13 are the only interview dates scheduled in the near future... as of today, could change tomorrow.
Any idea how many in the pool and upcoming classes for the folks in the Feb 11-13 interviews? Is this just to keep the pool full?
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