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12-12-2013, 06:00 AM

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ultradrvr

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Originally Posted by Galaxydriver

Back to hiring. Expect hiring in 2014 to be split between the 747 and 767 until the 767 seat locks are up. Not sure of the actual date, but later in 2014 new hires should expect 767 almost exclusively.

There will be 8 seat locks relesased in Sept more in oct. Thats when it all starts.

12-12-2013, 06:11 AM

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Snickers

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Originally Posted by Galaxydriver

Great news for us on the outside looking in! Want to take a guess at how many they're thinking of hiring?

12-12-2013, 06:14 AM

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Speedbird2263

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Originally Posted by ultradrvr

There will be 8 seat locks relesased in Sept more in oct. Thats when it all starts.

Is there a provision in the CBA for seat locks to be waived(operational need/new type etc.)?

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12-12-2013, 09:18 AM

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captainv

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Originally Posted by Speedbird2263

Is there a provision in the CBA for seat locks to be waived(operational need/new type etc.)?

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Seat locks are released if a new, higher-paying type shows up. Thus, a 767 FO under seat lock could bid, say, 777 FO, while a 747 FO under seat lock could not. Bidding a different type incurs another 3-year seat lock, but it's waived for an upgrade.

12-12-2013, 09:22 AM

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744driver

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Yes, the company can waive any seat locks, equipments locks, etc at their convenience...

ultradrvr,
I would modify your statement by adding that seat locks being released is significant ONLY if there are vacancies on a higher paying aircraft...IMHO.

12-12-2013, 09:47 AM

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Galaxydriver

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I think Ultradrvr's point was that was when the 1st set are up and any hiring after that will likely be into the 767 as any 747 vacancies will be filled by those 767 folks looking for a pay raise.

12-12-2013, 11:07 AM

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Wouldn't it be cheaper to have 1 set price for all airplanes and not have to do the training shuffle?

12-12-2013, 01:41 PM

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744driver

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UPS, and to some extent FDX (with their narrow-body vs wide-body pay rates) have already figured that out...

But ALPo (!!) drives these things and they have traditionally been for pay differential, 12-year pay scales, etc.