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Old 11-17-2013, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Well at worst you have 24 months 'till you can move to the Gucci Jet. If another fleet appears on the Atlas ramp I'm guessing that seat locks would be either unlocked or pay protected. In any case, there will probably be opportunities sooner rather than later at Atlas.

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Margin of error 33%. Reference CBA 24.K.3. Three year seat lock equals 36 months.

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Old 11-17-2013, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
Well at worst you have 24 months 'till you can move to the Gucci Jet. If another fleet appears on the Atlas ramp I'm guessing that seat locks would be either unlocked or pay protected. In any case, there will probably be opportunities sooner rather than later at Atlas.

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Kind of...there must be seats avail on the 74. We can't displace a junior guy on the 'senior' equipment - that's my interpretation of the CBA (Ref for 74 Driver!)

The pay at the other airlines listed may be comparable...but I've never commuted to work without a revenue ticket in hand.
You guys are right, and I'm sure there will be vacancies on the 747 when my seat lock comes open.

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Margin of error 33%. Reference CBA 24.K.3. Three year seat lock equals 36 months.
Well, I've been here almost a year now, so he's technically correct. Actually, I have 26 months to go, but who's counting?
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Old 11-18-2013, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
Well, I've been here almost a year now, so he's technically correct. Actually, I have 26 months to go, but who's counting?
I thought he meant "you" in the general sense, not specifically you. Sorry about that 8.

And who's counting? I'm down to 11 months, so I guess I am!
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhino12
Kind of...there must be seats avail on the 74. We can't displace a junior guy on the 'senior' equipment - that's my interpretation of the CBA (Ref for 74 Driver!)

The pay at the other airlines listed may be comparable...but I've never commuted to work without a revenue ticket in hand.
Thanks for actually reading the CBA, Rhino12!!

If new equipment arrives (!!) and lots of 744 folks want to move to a new type, there may be situations where they may need to backfill the 744/8, and positions will become available...plus I believe they cannot keep you from a higher paying aircraft (in the case of a new equipment award).

That said, it may also be a situation where (as DC8 mentioned, I believe) that you may be pay-protected if you are held back from bidding a higher paying fleet...but right now we don't have that in the current CBA, so it may have to be an LOA/MOU.

Disclaimer: No, I do not have any double-secret knowledge of the above scenarios actually being in play at this time.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:44 PM
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AQP implementation forthcoming?
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:02 AM
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Not on 76. Only 74. One of the requirements is the sim must be company owned/operated.

Flight like briefing today...best part was video game intro.
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:43 PM
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Any idea when the application window may be opening? World is putting a chunk of guys on the street on the 23rd.

Second question. There's a sim instructor position on the Atlas web site. Any idea what they are paying?

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Old 11-19-2013, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhino12
Not on 76. Only 74. One of the requirements is the sim must be company owned/operated.

Flight like briefing today...best part was video game intro.
Nope. I was in Miami this month and AQP is coming to the 76 as well. LOSA observation flights are on the way soon too.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhino12
Not on 76. Only 74. One of the requirements is the sim must be company owned/operated.

Flight like briefing today...best part was video game intro.
Really? I heard 747 was first, but did not know sim was critical piece to implementation. Hmph.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:01 PM
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LOSA started around Nov 1st...I spoke to a LCA that was in the middle of several at that time. I've got an LCA riding with me on Sunday.
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