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Old 10-07-2013, 07:34 PM
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I wish Sully would go away. He made a mockery of the regional industry, he made a fortune with book sales, speaking engagements, consulting, and now he's knocking on the cargo world. He retired. I think he should go and enjoy that cash and his wife instead of hanging around like a turd that won't flush.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:09 PM
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I wish Sully would go away. He made a mockery of the regional industry, he made a fortune with book sales, speaking engagements, consulting, and now he's knocking on the cargo world. He retired. I think he should go and enjoy that cash and his wife instead of hanging around like a turd that won't flush.
Knocking on cargo? I think he is making a point many cargo pilots have been making... Myself included. One level of safety. Period.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:19 PM
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The way I read it, Sully was knocking on the FAA, not cargo, or did I miss something?
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:38 PM
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Thanks for the responses, I agree with most all those points Polar. If I had Atlas and UA in each hand the decision would be hard. If Atlas had higher pay and retirement contribution the decision would be easy. No reason ACMI has to equal low pay! On the fatigue issue, I say push it at every opportunity. Sully or not, it deserves more attention and improves the quality of our profession and our health, because it is real. Oh yeah, and saves lives!!!
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:26 AM
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This is not meant as a jab, so seriously...are there many folks at Atlas who have left a legacy or major? And if by furlough, have made the choice to permanently bypass the recall? There are some real qualities of Atlas that would warrant such a decision.
As mentioned above, some on recall have gone back already.

Most pilots I have talked to from AA/UAL on furlough said they would wait until their last possible chance to go back, and then decide. A few double furloughees said they would not go back. Talked to one guy that could go back to UAL: He would make a lot more money (lifetime, with the present contracts in place) at UAL, but he loved flying at Atlas so had not gone back as of yet...he was a younger guy.

Quality of life: It depends. For some guys, Atlas has a better quality of life than the majors, for others, the majors are much better. It depends on what your definition of "Quality of life" means.

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Old 10-08-2013, 03:43 PM
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I've been at Atlas a little over a year and have an interview at Delta. I wonder what I will do!!
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Old 10-08-2013, 04:13 PM
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I've been at Atlas a little over a year and have an interview at Delta. I wonder what I will do!!
Same as anyone else, my friend. Do what is best for you. For some, that will be continuing to fly an airplane around the planet with Atlas. For others, that will be moving on to something else. Neither choice is wrong; neither choice is the answer for everyone. Those who love this life and stay here are all the better for doing so. Those who would rather do otherwise because it better fits their life also come out ahead. The key is figuring out what it is you really want to do.
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:15 PM
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here is some food for thought,
Two airlines are adding service to Los Angeles beginning June 1, 2014.

Etihad Airways will launch direct flights to Los Angeles from Abu Dhabi.

Cathay Pacific Airways will add a fourth daily direct flight to Los Angeles, along with three additional direct flights to Chicago beginning Aug. 2, 2014. This will bring the number of flights to Chicago to 10 a week.

Los Angeles, with a metropolitan population of more than 18 million people, is the second largest city in the U.S. It has strengths in business, international trade, technology and medicine.

“We are delighted to add Los Angeles, a major U.S. and global destination with a significant metropolitan population and growing economy, to the Etihad Airways’ network in 2014,” James Hogan, Etihad Airways’ president and CEO, said. “The expansion of the U.S. network also will be of considerable benefit to the growing commercial and cultural ties between the U.S. and UAE, with trade between the two countries set to increase beyond the current annual level of USD$22.5 billion.”

For Etihad Airways, Los Angeles will be its fourth U.S. destination, joining Chicago, New York and Washington, D.C. Etihad will deploy a Boeing 777-200LR on the route.

Cathay Pacific’s fourth Los Angeles frequency will be operated by Boeing 777-300ER aircraft.

“North America is an important market for Cathay Pacific, and we are pleased to be able to expand our services further and provide even more options for travelers,” John Slosar, Cathay Pacific chief executive, said.

- See more at: Etihad, Cathay Pacific add Los Angeles service | Air Cargo World News
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Old 10-08-2013, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by twoshadesblue
I've been at Atlas a little over a year and have an interview at Delta. I wonder what I will do!!
Hopefully you will have better luck than a friend of mine who was hired by Atlas in early 1998 and got a job offer from US Airways in 1999. He did the only rational thing. And today, after a very rough 12 years, he is jerking gear in a A320.

On the upside his marriage, ver 1.0, survived and he still has his house.

Of course if he had stayed at Atlas, which would have looked really stupid, he would be a senior Captain. But along the way he would have skated on the edge of seeing Chapter 7.

We are all just little mammals on the highway of aviation. Road kill is both a very common and a very random event.

So step up to the table and roll the dice.
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Old 10-09-2013, 05:00 AM
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I've been at Atlas a little over a year and have an interview at Delta. I wonder what I will do!!
If you were hired before July 12 you should definately go to Delta givin the opportunity
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