Atlas Air Hiring
#3241
#3242
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: Below The Radar
Posts: 40
Nice one! There have been some pretty good examples of a 74 crewmember's life earlier in this forum, but the info about the 76 hasn't been as detailed. Can a 76 FO post their most recent monthly schedule as an example, knowing that there is no such thing as a typical schedule at Atlas? Inb4 the guys sitting all post "Days 1-17: sitting waiting for OE."
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#3243
It is actually pointless to post schedules, as they vary. Usually you are initially assigned 13 days off, and the rest of the days you are working, in some capacity. You may fly a lot of legs, or not. You may sit reserve somewhere a lot, or maybe not. You may only fly around the Pacific, or you may go all over the place (except Antarctica). We also don't fly very much to Scandinavia, Canada, Russia, North Africa, India, and Eastern Europe (but we do some).
Your trip length will also vary. 17 days assigned is the max, unless you elect otherwise. My shortest trip has been one day, my longest 32. I have also had 4 day, 5 day, 6 day trips. At my base I would say the "normal" trip is 6-15 days.
The only thing constant is change. Your operating legs, deadhead legs, airline legs, locations, operating trips overnights, will change a lot, with often big changes, and frequently.
When you get your schedule for the month of days off/days working, that won't change too much (you could be extended 3 days of work on the end of a trip, or you may be changed to more days off at home), but within those days of work assigned, your may be changed a LOT!
Good luck!
cliff
VCP
Your trip length will also vary. 17 days assigned is the max, unless you elect otherwise. My shortest trip has been one day, my longest 32. I have also had 4 day, 5 day, 6 day trips. At my base I would say the "normal" trip is 6-15 days.
The only thing constant is change. Your operating legs, deadhead legs, airline legs, locations, operating trips overnights, will change a lot, with often big changes, and frequently.
When you get your schedule for the month of days off/days working, that won't change too much (you could be extended 3 days of work on the end of a trip, or you may be changed to more days off at home), but within those days of work assigned, your may be changed a LOT!
Good luck!
cliff
VCP
#3244
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 611
It is actually pointless to post schedules, as they vary. Usually you are initially assigned 13 days off, and the rest of the days you are working, in some capacity. You may fly a lot of legs, or not. You may sit reserve somewhere a lot, or maybe not. You may only fly around the Pacific, or you may go all over the place (except Antarctica). We also don't fly very much to Scandinavia, Canada, Russia, North Africa, India, and Eastern Europe (but we do some).
Your trip length will also vary. 17 days assigned is the max, unless you elect otherwise. My shortest trip has been one day, my longest 32. I have also had 4 day, 5 day, 6 day trips. At my base I would say the "normal" trip is 6-15 days.
The only thing constant is change. Your operating legs, deadhead legs, airline legs, locations, operating trips overnights, will change a lot, with often big changes, and frequently.
When you get your schedule for the month of days off/days working, that won't change too much (you could be extended 3 days of work on the end of a trip, or you may be changed to more days off at home), but within those days of work assigned, your may be changed a LOT!
Good luck!
cliff
VCP
Your trip length will also vary. 17 days assigned is the max, unless you elect otherwise. My shortest trip has been one day, my longest 32. I have also had 4 day, 5 day, 6 day trips. At my base I would say the "normal" trip is 6-15 days.
The only thing constant is change. Your operating legs, deadhead legs, airline legs, locations, operating trips overnights, will change a lot, with often big changes, and frequently.
When you get your schedule for the month of days off/days working, that won't change too much (you could be extended 3 days of work on the end of a trip, or you may be changed to more days off at home), but within those days of work assigned, your may be changed a LOT!
Good luck!
cliff
VCP
#3245
I don't know about the others, but I'm certainly not requiring a solid plan. I think the posts about the 76 have left several of us wondering where it's actually being used. I thought a sample schedule from a recent month would highlight the type of places it goes. If it's all around the world like the 74, then that's the answer. I just got the impression from a recent post that they were primarily being used domestically. Basically we're all anxiously awaiting a phone call and want you to tell us some good stories. So, instead of just saying it changes every day, can one of you regale the wannabes with a story of how you spent a recent month in the 76 (or 74)? I'm sure we'd all appreciate it.
#3246
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 39
One 76 is doing a leg or two domestically, then jumping from the west coast across the pacific for a couple of legs before returning to the west coast to the cycle over. The other one is doing a few legs domestically and then jumps off the east coast to Europe and the Middle East. The other 76 is doing the cargo runs. On occasion one of the pax 76's will do domestic runs for a week before jumping internationally.
#3247
DoomedTX,
I'm sure all of us are sensitive to the fact that the waiting is very difficult right now when there isn't any movement in the poolies, or any phone calls going out for interviews.
That said, one of the above responses is as specific as you are going to see here...let me explain.
Atlas receives a schedule from the AMC/DOD to populate about 3 weeks of flying for the 2 (soon-to-be 3) pax aircraft. The freighter(s) are mostly on a fixed rotation to specific cities...for now, 1 aircraft flying CVG-PHX-SAN and SAN-PHX-CVG. Second aircraft coming to us and starting ops soon will be doing CVG-TOL-MSP and back the same way. Third coming later in May is going to be flying CVG-SFO and return to CVG.
The pax airplanes are going from various commercial (but mostly Army, and Air Force, and sometimes Navy) airports to fuel stops in Germany, then they continue to various staging bases in the Persian Gulf with a fresh crew. It returns the same way (via Europe).
Several of the qualified FOs and Captains that I have seen recently have been asked to work on their days off, all the days that they want to give up. Lots of extra days and flying to be had right now. That is surely going to change after everyone gets trained and qualified.
Hope that helps...
Good luck.
I'm sure all of us are sensitive to the fact that the waiting is very difficult right now when there isn't any movement in the poolies, or any phone calls going out for interviews.
That said, one of the above responses is as specific as you are going to see here...let me explain.
Atlas receives a schedule from the AMC/DOD to populate about 3 weeks of flying for the 2 (soon-to-be 3) pax aircraft. The freighter(s) are mostly on a fixed rotation to specific cities...for now, 1 aircraft flying CVG-PHX-SAN and SAN-PHX-CVG. Second aircraft coming to us and starting ops soon will be doing CVG-TOL-MSP and back the same way. Third coming later in May is going to be flying CVG-SFO and return to CVG.
The pax airplanes are going from various commercial (but mostly Army, and Air Force, and sometimes Navy) airports to fuel stops in Germany, then they continue to various staging bases in the Persian Gulf with a fresh crew. It returns the same way (via Europe).
Several of the qualified FOs and Captains that I have seen recently have been asked to work on their days off, all the days that they want to give up. Lots of extra days and flying to be had right now. That is surely going to change after everyone gets trained and qualified.
Hope that helps...
Good luck.
#3248
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 199
Just received a call or a 767 class in April! Excited but thought I was hired into 747 initially so now I need to get my HW done on 76 life!!
After class are most sitting for a while prior to OE? What pay are you taking home post training - prior OE? Training pay or first year?
I'm close to OH...is CVG a possible base option?
Thank you all in advance!
After class are most sitting for a while prior to OE? What pay are you taking home post training - prior OE? Training pay or first year?
I'm close to OH...is CVG a possible base option?
Thank you all in advance!
#3249
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: 747 F/O
Posts: 172
Congrats Rhino!! You got a call today for a class that starts this month? For some reason I thought the April classes were accounted for, I guess I was wrong. When did you interview? Do you have 767 type/time? Been in pool since October, hoping to get a call in 2012...
#3250
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: Below The Radar
Posts: 40
Just received a call or a 767 class in April! Excited but thought I was hired into 747 initially so now I need to get my HW done on 76 life!!
After class are most sitting for a while prior to OE? What pay are you taking home post training - prior OE? Training pay or first year?
I'm close to OH...is CVG a possible base option?
Thank you all in advance!
After class are most sitting for a while prior to OE? What pay are you taking home post training - prior OE? Training pay or first year?
I'm close to OH...is CVG a possible base option?
Thank you all in advance!
Congrats on the call! Several of us know what waiting for the phone to ring is like!
As far as CVG, I think you could definitely get that base. I am sure they are going to run realignments as the airplanes come along, so if you are initially awarded JFK, don't despair. Also, remember the CVG base is primarily the DHL operation at this time.
As far as pay goes, the last couple classes were on training pay until the 4 months from date of hire was up, and then went on the first year guarantee. (50hrs x $75/hr). The nice thing is that you are getting per diem while in MIA for training, so it helps offset your living costs.
The scheduling group is getting a handle on the airplane/crew ratio for getting crews trained. As we all know, there's a steep curve when a new airplane comes online, but there's more coming and more crews getting trained. If you are starting class in April, figure as a rule of thumb that you'll be in MIA for 2 months from your start date.
Hope this helps!
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