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Old 12-14-2011, 08:04 AM
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And don't forget...we line guys have access to super-secret $hit like the link below.

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Old 12-14-2011, 09:03 AM
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Well I guess thats all positive stuff. Now if they would just drain the pool...
I would think any additional 767 classes would help drain the pool. Classic guys will stick to the 747 if nothing else because of the pay difference.
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:01 PM
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And don't forget...we line guys have access to super-secret $hit like the link below.

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That's awesome!
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 744driver
And don't forget...we line guys have access to super-secret $hit like the link below.

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You wouldn't believe the rumors that run through our community in the C-17. We heard for a while FedEx was thinking of buying some, that was a fun one for a while. Its way to inefficient for any business that wants to make money. That is a really cool paint job though.
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Its way too inefficient for any business that wants to make money.
As a side note...therein lies a gem of truth about why the defense budget is so hard to get a handle on. Efficiency is never one of the big items on the list when the design competition begins.

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Old 12-14-2011, 07:24 PM
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If we cared about efficiency, we would have bought 747s a long time ago vs the C-5!! Can't wait to start 747-400 school!
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:59 PM
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Many years ago I was sitting in Boeing's Performance Engineer course in Seattle and I got to know a couple of USAF guys and they were talking about how the USAF was getting the B757s soon (mid to late 90s).

I asked why the 757 v the 767? One of them said because senior DOD officials and even Congressional staffers felt the public would not like it if they got a widebody to move people around...

I said, that may be true, but the public would hate it even more if the USAF ends up with the wrong airplane for the mission you guys need to accomplish...he said that was above his pay grade, and beyond any logical reason he could come up with!!

That was almost 20 years ago...I have no doubt that the same logic is alive and well in all Government procurement schemes.

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Old 12-14-2011, 08:32 PM
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They're even more inefficient when we're empty half the time. But if Atlas wants to haul 150K lbs of cargo 10 hours over the pacific to land on a 3500' strip in BFE and then backup out of parking on their own, she'll do.
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:05 PM
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Ogie,

I think you are speaking of the C17...correct?
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:55 AM
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I LOVE IT!!!! How in the world did you find this? It's quite appropriate because eleven (yes 11) pilots in my unit including the Squadron Commander have been hired by Atlas!! 5 are in school now, 3 in the pool, 1 on military leave and me and the other are flying the line and loving it!

It's a great compnay to work for and the flying is challenging, but fun. I had my most difficult landing in Ramstein yesterday with really strong crosswinds. Worked out well, but still very challenging. You have to accept somewhat of a crab in this plane because you don't want to dip a wing too low and scrape a pod. It lands well and is very stable in gusty winds.
Best of luck to the new hires.
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