Atlas Air Hiring
10-04-2011, 08:44 AM
#2421
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 3
Hey Guys,
Obligatory "Thanks for all of the additional resources/prep/company information" statement. I thought I had a handle on all of my research until I gleaned all the little details and links from these 200+ pages.
Bringing it back to the new 100 question test - double the fun in the same amount of time, I get it. What I would like to know is if you can go back and forth between questions. Someone had written way back in the thread that once you clicked an answer, there was no changing your response.
To anyone who has taken the test recently, I would appreciate you input. Fly safe.
Obligatory "Thanks for all of the additional resources/prep/company information" statement. I thought I had a handle on all of my research until I gleaned all the little details and links from these 200+ pages.
Bringing it back to the new 100 question test - double the fun in the same amount of time, I get it. What I would like to know is if you can go back and forth between questions. Someone had written way back in the thread that once you clicked an answer, there was no changing your response.
To anyone who has taken the test recently, I would appreciate you input. Fly safe.
10-04-2011, 09:27 AM
#2422
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: CRJ900 CA
Posts: 49
Hey Guys,
Obligatory "Thanks for all of the additional resources/prep/company information" statement. I thought I had a handle on all of my research until I gleaned all the little details and links from these 200+ pages.
Bringing it back to the new 100 question test - double the fun in the same amount of time, I get it. What I would like to know is if you can go back and forth between questions. Someone had written way back in the thread that once you clicked an answer, there was no changing your response.
To anyone who has taken the test recently, I would appreciate you input. Fly safe.
Obligatory "Thanks for all of the additional resources/prep/company information" statement. I thought I had a handle on all of my research until I gleaned all the little details and links from these 200+ pages.
Bringing it back to the new 100 question test - double the fun in the same amount of time, I get it. What I would like to know is if you can go back and forth between questions. Someone had written way back in the thread that once you clicked an answer, there was no changing your response.
To anyone who has taken the test recently, I would appreciate you input. Fly safe.
10-04-2011, 11:10 AM
#2424
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 54
OK - I have what might be too obvious of a question. I'm looking at the Atlas Pre-Application Questionaire.
In the experience block, it asks for: "Turbine (turboprop+jet) time" and "Turbine (turboprop+jet) PIC time"
Then, further down in the 'Simulator Requirements' section it asks: "Do you have at least 2500 hours actual flight time as either PIC or SIC in a turbojet aircraft with a takeoff gross weight of 12,500 pounds or greater?" and "Have you served as either PIC or SIC on at least two turboject airplanes with a takeoff gross weight of 12,500 pounds or greater?"
And again in 'Operating Experience'
"Do you have more than 1500 hours flight time as either PIC or SIC in turbojet powered airplanes?"
So, being a career C-130 guy, my dumb question is are they looking for pure jet time in the 'simulator' and 'operating' questions, or can I count my C-130 turboprop experience? It just seems odd the various ways they ask the same questions...
In the experience block, it asks for: "Turbine (turboprop+jet) time" and "Turbine (turboprop+jet) PIC time"
Then, further down in the 'Simulator Requirements' section it asks: "Do you have at least 2500 hours actual flight time as either PIC or SIC in a turbojet aircraft with a takeoff gross weight of 12,500 pounds or greater?" and "Have you served as either PIC or SIC on at least two turboject airplanes with a takeoff gross weight of 12,500 pounds or greater?"
And again in 'Operating Experience'
"Do you have more than 1500 hours flight time as either PIC or SIC in turbojet powered airplanes?"
So, being a career C-130 guy, my dumb question is are they looking for pure jet time in the 'simulator' and 'operating' questions, or can I count my C-130 turboprop experience? It just seems odd the various ways they ask the same questions...
Applications will either say turbine, turboprop, or turbojet. Do not interchange them. Turbine is both turboprop and turbojet. C130 is only turboprop and turbine.
10-04-2011, 12:54 PM
#2425
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 484
10-04-2011, 03:49 PM
#2427
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 54
Problem is, you have to answer it as they ask it, because in the interview, you will have a difficult time explaining why you answered it improperly. That's occurred for the FedEx interviews concerning the FE written. (See threads). You can't try to justify something that is incorrect. Stick with what is correct, and you can't go wrong in an interview. If you were called in based on a computer generated interview list, the interview panel can negate you, so don't take a chance regardless if the company is interchanging them. They do have their reasons. Good luck!
10-04-2011, 09:37 PM
#2428
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: B744 FO
Posts: 375
I believe the first question is looking for turbine (t-prop + t-jet) command time for captain experience, for the company's interest.
The other question referencing turbojet-greater-than-12500 lbs speaks to the requirements for getting a initial turbojet type rating in a level "C" simulator. Atlas has hired t-prop-only pilots, but got them SIC-only B744 types, and then had to deal with pairing requirements, as they could only occupy the right seat. When they acquire "X" hours in type on the line, that allowed them to then go in for the full type rating and release to normal scheduling. (a practice from tough-to-find-qualified-pilots periods e.g. "when everybody's hiring").
I believe with a level "D" simulator all of this is unnecessary.
I may be wrong.
The other question referencing turbojet-greater-than-12500 lbs speaks to the requirements for getting a initial turbojet type rating in a level "C" simulator. Atlas has hired t-prop-only pilots, but got them SIC-only B744 types, and then had to deal with pairing requirements, as they could only occupy the right seat. When they acquire "X" hours in type on the line, that allowed them to then go in for the full type rating and release to normal scheduling. (a practice from tough-to-find-qualified-pilots periods e.g. "when everybody's hiring").
I believe with a level "D" simulator all of this is unnecessary.
I may be wrong.
10-04-2011, 09:40 PM
#2429
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Capt
Posts: 3,215
They are not interchanging them. Some of the questions are to find out if you qualify for a PIC type rating immediately, which is what they want to do on the -400....not sure about the 767 situation.
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10-05-2011, 05:14 AM
#2430
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 484
OK - I didn't think they were interchanging them, but wanted to be sure. I have virtually zero experience filling out applications and didn't understand the nuances of simulator stuff and other things 'foreign' to me.
Thanks for all the great explanations!!
Thanks for all the great explanations!!
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