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Old 09-11-2011, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bloomerpilot
Can anyone who has been through the Miami interview lately comment on what the pay during training is?
traing pay is $1200 per month.
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Old 09-11-2011, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Polarfr8dog
I try and always be positive BUT here's to hoping I'm wrong and hoping they're not readjusting hiring numbers due to the arbitration results.

No strike clause
Can't cross picket lines due to sensitive nature of military flying
Lost a lot of scope
Able to dry lease (Titan) airplanes can transfer here if they so choose from what I understand. Please tell me I'm wrong.
I'm curious what the scope is now with the new contract? So if I understand this correctly it means that the holding company is able to transfer aircraft from Atlas or Polar to Titan in order to dry lease them?
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by VF32TomCat
traing pay is $1200 per month.
It is now $1600 per month + Per Diem, still sux, but it is what it is.


Don't bite on the sky is falling scope issues. There has never been a scope clause upheld that any company ever went after with both barrels.

It is what it it is.
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Old 09-11-2011, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Polarfr8dog
I try and always be positive BUT here's to hoping I'm wrong and hoping they're not readjusting hiring numbers due to the arbitration results.

No strike clause
Can't cross picket lines due to sensitive nature of military flying
Lost a lot of scope
Able to dry lease (Titan) airplanes can transfer here if they so choose from what I understand. Please tell me I'm wrong.

Oh -- but we get to share information from/to the company to see if they're in violation of Scope.

Ask the ABX and Astar guys how good a pay raise is when you're in the unemployment line.

After looking at the slide and listening to the DahlmanRose presentation by our CEO, things appear to be on the right track but there is no designation to where the -8's are going.

So things are looking good here but you know what they say: keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Guess I'll find out in twenty years when I retire!
I haven't heard anything about "readjusting" hiring numbers. Is this a new rumor? Do share
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:06 AM
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Technically I don't think the pay rates (including training pay) change till October.
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:33 AM
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Is anyone able to list the Octobober pay rate increases throughout the payscale?
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 16Bob130
Is anyone able to list the Octobober pay rate increases throughout the payscale?
Effective October 1st. 5 year contract with rates increasing each year. Pay listed below is first year of the contract.

747
Captain
Years 1-12

201.00
195.15
189.46
183.94
178.59
173.38
168.33
163.43
158.67
154.05
149.56
145.21

747
First Officer / Flight Engineer
Year 1-12

140.70
136.60
132.62
128.76
125.01
121.37
116.15
110.32
104.72
99.36
94.22
75.00


767
Captain
Years 1-12

168.72
163.81
159.03
154.40
149.91
145.54
141.30
137.18
133.19
129.31
125.54
121.89

767
First Officer
Years 1-12

118.10
114.66
111.32
108.08
104.93
101.88
97.50
92.60
87.90
83.40
79.09
75.00
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Old 09-12-2011, 01:35 PM
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Do the rates increase linearly (if there is such a word) over the 5 years? What is the yearly increase? Do perdiem and monthly guarantees remain the same? Awesome info-thanks for your time
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:41 PM
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Per Diem goes up 5 cents, guarantee remain the same. Yes, linearly is a word. I don't think the increases meet the definition. Three year F/O goes up 1 dollar, 2 dollars, 1.03 and 2.06. Ten year Captains go up 1.80, 3.82 1.96 and 3.94.
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Old 09-12-2011, 02:59 PM
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I received a pay-cut with the new contract. Actually, all 1st year FOs received a pay-cut. Our hourly did not change, but we pay almost twice as much for medical insurance now. So, less money in pocket.

Time will tell with the quality of life issues.
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