twoshadesblue

Failop great job! Hit me up at [email protected], I have some info to pass.

16Bob130

Ok, I have to ask. I know it has been referenced on previous pages - the new contract is not final yet is it? Are there still viable rumors that it will see completion in the very near future? I have also seen a few different takes on the proposed salary increases; any reliable information in that respect? Any proposed mods to current work rules/policies worth mentioning? Thanks to all who contribute to this very informative thread. Cheers.

744driver

B747

12 year Captain $201 per hour
12 year FO/FE $140.70

B767

12 year Captain $168.72
12 year FO $118.10

Above are DOS (Date of Signing) pay rates...

16Bob130

Thanks 744....Accurate to assume that the 14% raise applies to every year on the ladder? Any proposed minimum hour increases (both 1st year and following years)? Fly safe!

744driver

I think what you are asking...

First year FO at $75 per hour and a 50-hour monthly guaranty. Starting second year (on any airplane type) is a 62-hour guaranty.

And the yearly pay adjustment is two-fold...your yearly anniversary gets you a pay increase, and the contract's DOS anniversary gets you a pay increase. Those of us that have been here for more than 12 years only get the DOS anniversary increase.

First year pay comes to $45,000 on either airplanes. Second year pay on the B767 comes to $59,430.72. These numbers are minimum guaranty amounts. It does not include any Trip Rig, profit sharing, etc.

Hope that helps...
Good luck.

Twin Wasp

Second year pay gets about a 9.5% raise, year 3 is about 10.5%. Guarantee stays the same, however the trip rig will kick in after 13 days. Lines will no longer be filled in with reserve days to bring it up to 17 days, if your awarded line is only 14 days, you're only on the hook for 14 days. That being said, we can be extended 3 extra days beyond our line. We lost any say (except fatigue) on having the duty day extended up to 2 hours. MinRest periods are bumped up an hour for each fraction on an hour you are extended.

16Bob130

Being uneducated in the lingo.....does that mean that the current 17 day a month obligation is relaxing a bit Twin Wasp? Also, the above yearly salary numbers above do not include per diem, correct 744? From what I have gathered over the last several months of this thread is that one can expect to take home ~$400 or so of the per diem monthly-true? Great info all-thank you for your time.

Twin Wasp

Presently we owe the company 17 days a month. That aren't that many 17 day lines in the bid package. I try to do all my work in one 17 day chunk and I mark the bid to tell scheduling that. What happens now is scheduling adds R days to a 12 or 14 day line to bring it up to 17. I got a 14 day line for Sept. The company added three R days at the beginning of the line. (Don't get me started on how stupid I think that is. If the company uses me then I lose out on what little control I had on my bid till chaos theory kicks in. And now they have to cover my awarded line with other reserve folks.) So back to your question, yes the hard 17 day seems to be relaxing. They are going to call your awarded days your "footprint" and everything is supposed to happen in those days.

There are going to be 4 guaranteed days off a year that you can use to say "Don't extend me this month." And there are going to be some reserve lines and hybrid hard/reserve lines that I haven't read through yet and I can't say what happens with them.

Per Diem is 2.40 an hour from first report time at your base till you're released at your base. I'm getting 700-800 a month, how much you bring home is a matter of where you layover and how much you drink.

744driver

Nice summary, Twin Wasp.

I had forgotten about the 4 days per year (!!) that they can f*&k with me...yeah, we got'em over a barrel now, NOT!!

supernaut

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