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Old 03-11-2024, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Clue32
You must meet the posted minimums for candidates without an ATP. If you don't the Application Manager will automatically reject your application.

We have lots of Ameriflight alumni. As stated, the 737 is your likely destination. Finish OE at a regional and the 767 is probably a strong possibility.
Wonderful, thanks for letting me know, I wouldn’t mind the 37 but would probably prefer the 67 or something else because of the different trips.
Originally Posted by astray
I put in an application about 100 hours before meeting mins. Ticked the boxes that said I qualified even if I lacked total time. Told the recruiter I'd be qualified in x months and he said no problem I read your resume. Most of the AMF guys I know are on the 767.
Good to know, this is probably what I'll end up doing in a month or so when I'm only 100 hours out. Would love to make the move and do some cool ACMI flying.
Originally Posted by Elevation
AMF people do great.
This is great to hear! It gives me confidence because of the rumors of washouts during training, but it sounds like as long as you are proactive, study hard and take it seriously it shouldn’t be a problem.
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Old 03-11-2024, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdsmash
Thank you Atlasvet and thank the rest involved in the interview process. It’s quite evident none of us wanted to sit next to someone like this.
There are actually some pretty goood folks involved, the CPs don't have enough time for day to day involvement. The panels have some pretty seasoned HR personnel, most with airline experience, Fortunately most of those involved are either retired Capts with a Union Rep on most HR panels. Pilots get a solid vote on the Tech Panel and most often the HR Panel is one HR rep and two pilots. So Flight Ops most often have the most weight and can always down a candidate, but HR and background checks also play an important role.

We work hard to weed out bad eggs and I think we catch a lot of them. However, a few sneak through and then have to survive training, OE and a year as a probationary employee.
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Old 03-11-2024, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sethstonflyer
Wonderful, thanks for letting me know, I wouldn’t mind the 37 but would probably prefer the 67 or something else because of the different trips.

Good to know, this is probably what I'll end up doing in a month or so when I'm only 100 hours out. Would love to make the move and do some cool ACMI flying.

This is great to hear! It gives me confidence because of the rumors of washouts during training, but it sounds like as long as you are proactive, study hard and take it seriously it shouldn’t be a problem.
AMF has decent training, and you've got plenty of experience in real-world flying already. So you've hit it on the head. As long as you read up, prepare and decompress you'll rock.
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Old 03-12-2024, 07:19 AM
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Is the Atlas Careers page down for anyone else?
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Old 03-12-2024, 07:41 AM
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Nope, mine works.
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Old 03-12-2024, 08:44 AM
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Mine works again, thanks!
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Old 03-13-2024, 06:06 AM
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I have a phone screening coming up with Atlas, and A class date with ATI, kind of on the fence at the moment, but leaning towards Atlas. Are the pay scales accurate? 97 for FOs and a fixed rate for captains? Are trips spectacularly better at Atlas than ATI? I truly dont know much and i'm trying to do a bit more research. Everyone online though seems to love Atlas.

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Old 03-13-2024, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyler
I have a phone screening coming up with Atlas, and A class date with ATI, kind of on the fence at the moment, but leaning towards Atlas. Are the pay scales accurate? 97 for FOs and a fixed rate for captains? Are trips spectacularly better at Atlas than ATI? I truly dont know much and i'm trying to do a bit more research. Everyone online though seems to love Atlas.
I left ATI to go to Atlas. It's night and day difference. It's a 12 year pay scale like any other airline, currently 97.60 for Y1 FOs and it goes up every September.
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Old 03-13-2024, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyler
I have a phone screening coming up with Atlas, and A class date with ATI, kind of on the fence at the moment, but leaning towards Atlas. Are the pay scales accurate? 97 for FOs and a fixed rate for captains? Are trips spectacularly better at Atlas than ATI? I truly dont know much and i'm trying to do a bit more research. Everyone online though seems to love Atlas.
Don't go to any ATSG carrier right now.

If you don't know what ATSG stands for, you DEFINITELY haven't done your homework. Go to Atlas.
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Old 03-14-2024, 12:54 PM
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I agree with the previous poster's (zero's) advice. I disagree with the rationale. A company is a company and plenty of good people work at all of them. ATSG carriers have separate seniority lists and poorly diversified clientele. So if ATI loses Amazon business you can't cross over and fly AMC charters for Omni for example. The future is unpredictable, however. A few years ago, Atlas was the place to avoid and people were going to ATI. So regardless of which choice you make, you're landing in thr same, general neighborhood.

Regarding homework, I believe people may be referring to old animosities of ATI being an ALPA carrier while others are teamsters. That allows airlines to be pitted against each other. You're not in the wrong for not knowing this. No big deal. There is no absence of due diligence on your part.

There are some (not necessarily zero, but there are some) folks who think that by working at an ALPA carrier you are somehow weakening our bargaining position. Really this is just about the human drive to form tribes. You have to ignore a number of other factors (I'll spare you a long list.) for this to be a significant factor. Screw tribes. Go where it's best for you. Right now I believe Atlas is the best of the okay. Don't skip that class date until you have another one lined up, though

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