C17B74

A deep dive into that “in a year from now” means there could be an amazing amount of change for the good or bad to our operations, compensation, schedules, and so forth aside from hiring madness perhaps. Just crazy to think that the job you applied for might be quite a bit different from the job you get which might be bad but could be also awesome. Perspective is everything and to each their own so “Welcome aboard” to the new folks and may it be better than you thought. If not, plenty of options, best hiring opportunities in history and your time here is a resume builder. Timing IS everything.

chrisd2238

Thinking about coming over, as I’m single and the wide body lifestyle interests me. I spend most of my days off at my regional traveling to Europe anyway. Just curious about soft time; what people are actually making with pick ups and such, or if it’s hard to get above guarantee. Apologies if it’s been discussed elsewhere, couldn’t find it but would be happy to be pointed to the thread!

BrazilBusDriver

The honest answer is probably that it varies widely between fleets, seasons, and staffing levels. Need to be able to make the bills work on min guarantee, but I hear there's been robust opportunities to pick up time and/or make soft pay on the 777 and 747. It does seem like a lot of that was "Covid Premium" - often referred to as "Article 33 flying" for the section of our CBA that covers it. My understanding is that's still going on in China, but that's about it - as opposed to a couple years ago when basically everywhere international paid it. It seems roughly related to whether or not you're locked in your hotel room. The 737, for instance, never had any article 33 flying that I'm aware of.

I wouldn't count on more than 68-75/hrs a month on the 737 or 767, though, and you'll have some 64 hr months. There's a fair amount of opportunity for open time on the 767 (currently) if you live in CVG or ONT. Maybe you can make that work being single. Can't speak to open time on the other fleets as I don't get the notifications.

TiredSoul

Covid/Hazard/Art.33 pay still only applies to a handful of destinations. Those glory days are mostly over.
From my own experience you can do anywhere from min garantee 64hrs to 180+ credit hours.
I flew 800+ block in my first year.
You shouldn’t budget on it but 900-1000 credit hours a year is certainly doable.

Supermoto

I would say this applies to the 74 and 77, not the 76. My personal opinion is that 2023 will see a drastically slowing economy. This might affect the flying. Atlas is still among the best places to be in that kind of environment.

chrisd2238

180 credit in a month? Can I ask how one would go about that?

dera

Right now if based in ANC, 180-200 hours a month is easy if you pick up aggressively, this will change when China opens up, so perhaps at some point next year. Right now classes and training are so backed up it'll be 8 months from applying to hitting the line, so who knows what the world looks like then.

chrisd2238

appreciate the info. How about CJO to class date?

dera

747 classes are full until ~March. 767 mid-Feb. They do have a waitlist for last minute cancellations. Don't have any info about 737 or 777.

160to4

Have we lost our participation in the Bose discount program? We used to get 15% off Bose headsets