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Old 08-30-2022, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Atlasvet
Look, I work with the hiring team. Several months ago we interviewed a few folks that were seeking visas, they had to do their own funding and leg work. It is just too spendy and time consuming, and Atlas does not foot the bill. We aren’t even interviewing such folks at this time and haven’t for several months. As I have stated several times it is;

US citizens
Others that have the right to work, e.g. Green cards or visas from an American spouse
Aussies as they have a much quicker and cheaper visa route
Folks that worked another visa on their own and are awaiting final authorization

So please stop encouraging others and stating that “someone told me” that Atlas will hire anyone from anywhere.
The Atlas interviewers, and others in the hiring department, need to stop telling people this stuff, if it's not true.
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Old 08-30-2022, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by martymcflyface
Should the company provide checked bags on your gateway flight to Miami for initial training?
Expecting to be in Miami for a few months, surely they would expect you to bring more than just a carry on.
When I was a new hire, I asked to come in a couple of days early to MIA. They bought me the ticket I wanted, and paid for those extra days in the hotel.

In 2020, I brought my CEO to recurrent training, so she could have some warm weather holiday. I told the company i wanted 2-3 extra hotel nights, and I had no problem paying for those extra days.
Atlas paid for the extra hotel days.
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Old 08-30-2022, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
When I was a new hire, I asked to come in a couple of days early to MIA. They bought me the ticket I wanted, and paid for those extra days in the hotel.

In 2020, I brought my CEO to recurrent training, so she could have some warm weather holiday. I told the company i wanted 2-3 extra hotel nights, and I had no problem paying for those extra days.
Atlas paid for the extra hotel days.
This is one of the very good things about Atlas. They are flexible with requests like that and will work with you.
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Old 08-31-2022, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
The Atlas interviewers, and others in the hiring department, need to stop telling people this stuff, if it's not true.
The “hiring department” and “interviewers” encompass a wide variety of people to include;

About 70% of the HR Department
Management pilots
Numerous XCAs, Instructors, Training Center Personnel
Retired Capts, many of which are now part time employees
IBT members on the hiring committee

Point being that this team is not made up of some evil, disconnected entity that is trying to pass disinformation or mess up the crew force. Nor is it a group of HR folk that don’t know what makes up a good crew member. Every candidate is screened by HR, but the majority of the interviews and screening involves crew members, past and present.

Those that participate regularly or attend the training that occurs a couple times a year know the situation with hiring of non US citizens. It is possible that a member or two of this group may have misstated the policies earlier this year.
But is is more likely that such rumors persist from misunderstanding or continued contrary statements that some wish to promote to create discontent.

I had a current XCA tell me that one of his OE students tell him that his class was 90% Aussies, since he heard it from an OE student it must be true. I have access to the class roosters, so I was able to check. Earlier this year, there was no class that had more then 20-30% Aussies and this being predominantly on the 74 fleet. We have yet to exceed 50% in any class.
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Old 09-03-2022, 03:38 PM
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I'm just impressed that you guys have a "team". Most of the others within the industry simply have an HR person (gal) and someone from Standards/Management to run the pulse machine.
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Old 09-03-2022, 10:39 PM
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Looking for options and Atlas is ticking many boxes . Family man with kids so home life is important, type of flying and money next . Wife has family in Florida so looking at that but NY is also on radar , we would come from OS and both of us never lived in states before . I’m mid 50’s with 20k hours , some widebody but mainly narrow body airbus . No Boeing , just to narrow research down and what’s possible ? If I got a job would it be workable to relocate family to Florida or NY and I gateway to ANC or any other base I initially got ? Then try to bid closer in a year or so . Would 767 fleet be better option ? I understand fleets and bases change and I might find myself commuting again . Preferable to just move family once and I travel when needed ? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Old 09-04-2022, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Womble
Looking for options and Atlas is ticking many boxes . Family man with kids so home life is important, type of flying and money next . Wife has family in Florida so looking at that but NY is also on radar , we would come from OS and both of us never lived in states before . I’m mid 50’s with 20k hours , some widebody but mainly narrow body airbus . No Boeing , just to narrow research down and what’s possible ? If I got a job would it be workable to relocate family to Florida or NY and I gateway to ANC or any other base I initially got ? Then try to bid closer in a year or so . Would 767 fleet be better option ? I understand fleets and bases change and I might find myself commuting again . Preferable to just move family once and I travel when needed ? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Must preface this by saying this is based on a snapshot of now, September. Things can and do change.

If your number one priority is time at home, CVG is where you wanna be. Specifically, the 737 has the most lines with fewer work days, as well as I think trips often touch CVG mid pattern. Also, many lines start and end with offline deadheads, which means you can commute on those work days instead of off days before and after.

You can commute fairly easily from anywhere in the country to any base, but you lose days off by gateway traveling. If you have flexibility, I'd recommend living near a base that you'd want to end up in. You can pretty much hold any base in any fleet within 6-12 months, with the exceptions of 747 IAH and MIA (around 2.5 years to hold, I think), and 767 IAH and JFK.

Last time I looked, 737 flying was typically one flight a day, give or take, but don't expect to break minimum guarantee. 767 I've heard has a mix of easy flying, busy flying, domestic, and international flying, and averages slightly over min guarantee.

747 flies all over the world, sometimes with a few days layover, sometimes back-to-back-to-back 18+ hour duty days with minimum rest between. It pays the best, averaging the most credit hours and with a healthy dose of article 33 flying to China and others (extra $$$, but is temporary).

777 I don't know much about, but hear they typically do laps around the world to 6 or so destinations, with much less variety than the 747 or 767. Pay seems to credit somewhere between the 767 and 747, but I don't think they have much (any?) article 33 flying.

Seat lock is only 2 years, so you could always try something, and if you realize a different fleet would work better for your family, you can make the switch. No seat lock when going from an FO to CA on another fleet.

Hope that helps. I probably am not 100% correct on some of it, as I'm relatively new, and am fighting to stay awake after a 20+ hour duty day. Good luck!

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Old 09-04-2022, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EhV8R
Must preface this by saying this is based on a snapshot of now, September. Things can and do change.

If your number one priority is time at home, CVG is where you wanna be. Specifically, the 737 has the most lines with fewer work days, as well as I think trips often touch CVG mid pattern. Also, many lines start and end with offline deadheads, which means you can commute on those work days instead of off days before and after.

You can commute fairly easily from anywhere in the country to any base, but you lose days off by gateway traveling. If you have flexibility, I'd recommend living near a base that you'd want to end up in. You can pretty much hold any base in any fleet within 6-12 months, with the exceptions of 747 IAH and MIA (around 2.5 years to hold, I think), and 767 IAH and JFK.

Last time I looked, 737 flying was typically one flight a day, give or take, but don't expect to break minimum guarantee. 767 I've heard has a mix of easy flying, busy flying, domestic, and international flying, and averages slightly over min guarantee.

747 flies all over the world, sometimes with a few days layover, sometimes back-to-back-to-back 18+ hour duty days with minimum rest between. It pays the best, averaging the most credit hours and with a healthy dose of article 33 flying to China and others (extra $$$, but is temporary).

777 I don't know much about, but hear they typically do laps around the world to 6 or so destinations, with much less variety than the 747 or 767. Pay seems to credit somewhere between the 767 and 747, but I don't think they have much (any?) article 33 flying.

Seat lock is only 2 years, so you could always try something, and if you realize a different fleet would work better for your family, you can make the switch. No seat lock when going from an FO to CA on another fleet.

Hope that helps. I probably am not 100% correct on some of it, as I'm relatively new, and am fighting to stay awake after a 20+ hour duty day. Good luck!

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Appreciate your thoughts and thanks for taking time to post .
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Old 09-04-2022, 03:01 AM
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If you have the time to go to the 767 instead of the 73 it's much better. more pay, samish schedules essentially with some more variety of you want it.
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Old 09-04-2022, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Roverruckus
If you have the time to go to the 767 instead of the 73 it's much better. more pay, samish schedules essentially with some more variety of you want it.
Makes sense , thanks . Looking at bases , cost of living and schools .
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