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Old 07-29-2011, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by C17Trap
I agree "NeedAJob". I didn't start reading these threads until after I got the "good letter". 18 days later I came out of the pool. I never had access to the threads/posts and never sought out any information. The ONLY reason I signed up after getting hired was to help other pilots. We as pilots help each other out. It's what we do.

If a guy on here asks me for some help, the last thing I am going to do is be arrogant and condascending like I have seen in recent posts. Those who have, ought to be ashamed of themselves, especially if they are already representing the company. The people I met at my interview were extremely friendly and were genuinely nice which is the way I would choose to represent this company. Not arrogance.

Now back to providing information about this awesome company!
C17. Welcome aboard.

Sorry you think my post was arrogant and condescending because it certainly wasn't meant to be, however, I am not ashamed of myself or my response.

The fact is that one of the questions NeedAJob asked was answered in the post immediately above his post which was a quote of a post of mine. And had he taken the time to read even only the previous 8 or 10 pages he would have found all of his answers.

As for helping, the majority of my 200 posts here have been doing just what you intend to do; Helping other pilots. I guess the difference is that most every question I have fielded, even the "dumb sounding" ones, aren't dumb at all. They can bring up good points of discussion on matters not previously investigated or which may be brand new subjects. Like the question that I answered about the 76's. Those questions however are all well informed queries showing a high degree of interest which reflects a good deal of research into Atlas - including reading this thread.

As you surely know from your interview, Atlas wants pilots who know exactly what they are getting into; even to the point of requiring pilots to download the Atlas Annual Report as a part of their interview preparation. At least they asked for that prior to my interview - maybe yours was different. Anyway, you will find that there is a great deal of "cooperate-to-graduate" here with invaluable wisdom that we pass down from class to class. But no matter how much of a heads up you may have, you will still have to study your butt off to pass the oral and the check ride. Atlas demands a high level of motivation and dedication to successfully interview and complete training and this motivation is usually very apparent in the dialogs on these boards. This was the point of my post.

Many pilots have taken a lot of time and effort posting a wealth of knowledge on these boards. Many with hundreds more posts than I have put here. All correct and all worth their weight in gold as far as getting this job is concerned. And all there free for the taking with the only price being a few minutes of attention.

Good luck in class. You're going to be impressed. It's a great company

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Old 07-30-2011, 05:23 AM
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[QUOTE=DC8DRIVER;1031065]C17. Welcome aboard.

Sorry you think my post was arrogant and condescending because it certainly wasn't meant to be, however, I am not ashamed of myself or my response.

The fact is that one of the questions NeedAJob asked was answered in the post immediately above his post which was a quote of a post of mine. And had he taken the time to read even only the previous 8 or 10 pages he would have found all of his answers.

As for helping, the majority of my 200 posts here have been doing just what you intend to do; Helping other pilots. I guess the difference is that most every question I have fielded, even the "dumb sounding" ones, aren't dumb at all. They can bring up good points of discussion on matters not previously investigated or which may be brand new subjects. Like the question that I answered about the 76's. Those questions however are all well informed queries showing a high degree of interest which reflects a good deal of research into Atlas - including reading this thread.

As you surely know from your interview, Atlas wants pilots who know exactly what they are getting into; even to the point of requiring pilots to download the Atlas Annual Report as a part of their interview preparation. At least they asked for that prior to my interview - maybe yours was different. Anyway, you will find that there is a great deal of "cooperate-to-graduate" here with invaluable wisdom that we pass down from class to class. But no matter how much of a heads up you may have, you will still have to study your butt off to pass the oral and the check ride. Atlas demands a high level of motivation and dedication to successfully interview and complete training and this motivation is usually very apparent in the dialogs on these boards. This was the point of my post.

Many pilots have taken a lot of time and effort posting a wealth of knowledge on these boards. Many with hundreds more posts than I have put here. All correct and all worth their weight in gold as far as getting this job is concerned. And all there free for the taking with the only price being a few minutes of attention.

Good luck in class. You're going to be impressed. It's a great company

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Very eloquently put 8,
I studied my rear off for the interview, going over the financial report with a fine toothed comb and found that it really helped me when talking about the company during the interview. There is a lot of great information in these threads and I encourage guys to print them out, get a hi-lighter and pull out the information that will help them with the phone interview and online test and use it.

I have heard it(the training) is really challenging from a friend of mine who just finished and is about to have his OE.
Today I am driving from the panhandle to Miami and will be in the Residence Inn tonight. Can't wait!

It's an exciting company and I look forward to flying with you.
Cheers and fly safe!
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Old 07-30-2011, 10:09 AM
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Old 07-30-2011, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
C17. Welcome aboard.

Sorry you think my post was arrogant and condescending because it certainly wasn't meant to be, however, I am not ashamed of myself or my response.

The fact is that one of the questions NeedAJob asked was answered in the post immediately above his post which was a quote of a post of mine. And had he taken the time to read even only the previous 8 or 10 pages he would have found all of his answers.

As for helping, the majority of my 200 posts here have been doing just what you intend to do; Helping other pilots. I guess the difference is that most every question I have fielded, even the "dumb sounding" ones, aren't dumb at all. They can bring up good points of discussion on matters not previously investigated or which may be brand new subjects. Like the question that I answered about the 76's. Those questions however are all well informed queries showing a high degree of interest which reflects a good deal of research into Atlas - including reading this thread.

As you surely know from your interview, Atlas wants pilots who know exactly what they are getting into; even to the point of requiring pilots to download the Atlas Annual Report as a part of their interview preparation. At least they asked for that prior to my interview - maybe yours was different. Anyway, you will find that there is a great deal of "cooperate-to-graduate" here with invaluable wisdom that we pass down from class to class. But no matter how much of a heads up you may have, you will still have to study your butt off to pass the oral and the check ride. Atlas demands a high level of motivation and dedication to successfully interview and complete training and this motivation is usually very apparent in the dialogs on these boards. This was the point of my post.

Many pilots have taken a lot of time and effort posting a wealth of knowledge on these boards. Many with hundreds more posts than I have put here. All correct and all worth their weight in gold as far as getting this job is concerned. And all there free for the taking with the only price being a few minutes of attention.

Good luck in class. You're going to be impressed. It's a great company

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I apologize if I didn't extrapolate the right information from reading the post immediately prior to my original. I suppose the new hire number you posted was for new hires this year remaining. I've had my app in at Atlas for a number of years, but only recently began researching the company again. if I hadn't read your post, I wouldn't have known to ask anything about the 767s. I'm qualified on that aircraft, thus my peaked interest in Atlas.

I'm five airlines into this game and have been both FO and captain many times. To assume you figured enough out from four or five lines of a person's first post to justify a response like that was indeed condescending. Meanwhile, I'm slowly chewing through the thread trying to learn about yet another company.

I've been beat around and furloughed and flown with enough self-righteous first officers and captains to be a bit numb to most things, but really? Mine was an innocent question, for which my common sense and motivation was insulted with a rant better suited to a high school career day. I've heard the we hire captains speech many times before. If the call comes hopefully I'll be ready the same way I have been for other carriers I worked at; until then - it's just another day listening to people thump their chests.

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Old 07-30-2011, 01:48 PM
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Guys, I'm curious if employees of Atlas Air are able to purchase ZED tickets on other airlines for family members ie: spouse, girlfriend (domestic partner), children and parents?

Thanks!
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Old 07-30-2011, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jaredpilot
Guys, I'm curious if employees of Atlas Air are able to purchase ZED tickets on other airlines for family members ie: spouse, girlfriend (domestic partner), children and parents?

Thanks!

Page 175, five posts from the top.....
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Old 07-30-2011, 03:05 PM
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Page 175, five posts from the top.....
Thanks for the info, a little bummed that you don't get any other airline standby options...
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Read the entire thread multiple times and have seen whats on here as far as what to expect for the online assessment, but those posts are about a year old. Can anyone send me a more current list of questions that I might encounter?

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Old 07-31-2011, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jaredpilot
Thanks for the info, a little bummed that you don't get any other airline standby options...

In the end it isn't an issue, really. By the time you're well into your second year you'll have enough airline miles from the positioning to positive space and that's WAY better than standby!
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Old 07-31-2011, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NeedAJob
I apologize if I didn't extrapolate the right information from reading the post immediately prior to my original. I suppose the new hire number you posted was for new hires this year remaining. I've had my app in at Atlas for a number of years, but only recently began researching the company again. if I hadn't read your post, I wouldn't have known to ask anything about the 767s. I'm qualified on that aircraft, thus my peaked interest in Atlas.

I'm five airlines into this game and have been both FO and captain many times. To assume you figured enough out from four or five lines of a person's first post to justify a response like that was indeed condescending. Meanwhile, I'm slowly chewing through the thread trying to learn about yet another company.

I've been beat around and furloughed and flown with enough self-righteous first officers and captains to be a bit numb to most things, but really? Mine was an innocent question, for which my common sense and motivation was insulted with a rant better suited to a high school career day. I've heard the we hire captains speech many times before. If the call comes hopefully I'll be ready the same way I have been for other carriers I worked at; until then - it's just another day listening to people thump their chests.
Indeed the bottom line is that arrogance and chest thumping has been an issue. I have been flying heavy jets my whole career, since 1993. Not thumping my chest, but just wanting to help. I dont care what they have said. I'll help you out. Talon has been a great help too. PM me if you have any questions. I've never been with an airline. I have been a C-141 aircraft commander and C17 instructor and have crossed the Atlantic, Pacific, and the South American region many many times. My goal is to help guys like you. Ignore the arrogance. Those guys are bitter because they flew DC-8's for so long. Don't get the wrong idea about Atlas. We are nice and we are laid back. Yes the class is hard, but you can do it just like the rest of us can. Don't listen to the negetive Nancy's. If anyone wants help, email me at [email protected].

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